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To: imardmd1; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; jeremiah; ...

WHEN

you decide to believe

Mark 16:17-18,

Acts 2

and

I Cor 12-14

get back to me.

PERHAPS we could have something resembling a meaningful dialogue, then.

Until then . . . enjoy quenching Holy Spirit while you can . . . It’s NOT something HE enjoys.

BTW, just out of curiosity . . .

what sort of prissy group do you associate with?


96 posted on 02/16/2012 10:42:59 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Mark 16:17-18, Acts 2 and I Cor 12-14

Believing these?

Of course. Over 40 years ago, at the age of 34.

Back then, I went through the "charismatic" stage. It did not seem to be very helpful toward understanding the mind of The Christ. Memorizing, engrafting, and meditating on His Word seemed to work better.

I believe in the whole Bible itself front to back, including the titles of the books, the inspired headings of Psalms, and its name for itself. I believe that it is authoritative, infallible, inerrant, sufficient, plenarily verbally inspired, perfectly preserved, and magnified in Heaven above all His Name. Regarding the passages you indicated, I believe in the meanings they convey when precisely translated into my language in a literal equivalence and interpreted by a hermeneutic employing literal and/or figurative-literal language, so that I may, as closely as possible, understand the sense that a person would understand at the time the Scripture was written.

Do you believe in the Bible as presented to you in this fashion?
If not, no reasonable dialogue is possible.

Some of the ideas and attitudes that your notes in this thread seem to project will probably not be in agreement with a fair exposition of the verses you suggested.

Can you explain the meaning of 1 Cor. 13:10?
Especially in identifying "that which is perfect"?

what sort of prissy group do you associate with?

I associate with independent, fundamental, Bible-believing, separated, immersionist assemblies, where the men are real men, the women are real women, and Jesus Christ is the Real Lord. One of those would be of the Plymouth-type brethren, from whom many highly-respected Bible scholars, authors, and missionaries have come. One such raised in that milieu is my discipler. He has translated the entire New Testament from the Koine, and has in print "The Gospels -- A Precise Translation." It is freely available, and especially valuable to the Bible student who does not have the advantage of a seminary training. It's just as useful, though, to one who does.

(Verbally abusing others isn't the best way to get disciples. At least, Jesus didn't seem to use it much.)

114 posted on 02/18/2012 2:29:58 AM PST by imardmd1 (Jude 3c "... earnestly contend for The Faith which was once delivered to the saints.")
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