[metmom]

Hmmmm...so does this mean the Holy Spirit comes and goes in a charismatic’s life? That He can be there and then leave a person? And the proof that He has left is not speaking in tongues? If that is so, then there is no security in the finished work of Christ, we are not truly sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, we can lose our salvation, and “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ” (Philippians 1:6) is not true?

It sounds like some are depending on the evidence of the filling of the Spirit to give them assurance of their security in Christ, or even this salvation in the first place.

It would certainly explain the vehemence with which tongues and being slain in the Spirit are defended contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture.

[CynicalBear]

That whole “slain in the spirit” thing is really curious. I’ve watched as some who claim that experience fall over, appear to faint and lay on the floor. Of what purpose is that or could that possibly be for? Did the apostles’ fall on the floor and gyrate uncontrollably when they received the Holy Spirit? I think not. The theatrics should alert any true Spirit filled Christian to the charlatans who promote such nonsense.

[Quix]