NO, I am not!
There is a misconception about the so-called "sign" gifts and their reality in today's world. We had been discussing "tongues" and the false use and snooty attitude some have who claim to have been gifted with that particular gift.
SNOOTY attitude? Sounds more like some are looking down on what they don't have what others do. I think this is spiritual warfare - the same what is going on with class warfare. "You have and I don't" mentality. "If I don't have it, it's you who did something wrong to get it or you don't have it, just faking it" mentality.
Today, we have men and women making a lot of money off of claiming to have this same power that Jesus gave to the disciples as they went about establishing the church and these miracles were confirmations of the authority of the Gospel they preached.
Lot of money - more class warfare. The command to "Go make disciples" didn't STOP and neither did preaching the gospel.
People today, such as Benny Hinn, put on these elaborate shows and productions to get people to respond to their pleadings for money - whereas the disciples NEVER healed for that reason.
Healed for what reason? Is that how you see benny, pleading for money? If so, don't go to him. I don't know anyone who has gone to him and if some want to give him money - what business is it of yours. If he is what you claim, people will learn. Because you didn't get, maybe others did. How many went to car mechanics and didn't get want they wanted - so now we have false mechanics. If you think he's false or misleading - ignore him. It's a simple as that. In fact, it would be wise to do that - because you really don't know. Neither do I. Seems those who aren't healed are his loudest critics.
Thousands of people have NOT been healed by these "faith-healers" and leave dejected and lost because they were PROMISED an experience just like in Jesus' days here.
Really? Thousands - do you have that personally verified? Why leave dejected and lost? If they have faith - that they know that they know - NOTHING would make one dejected and lost. Seems more like they were 'trying' it instead of believing it. Are there some false - sure, we know that from Scripture but are all false? Or as some are proclaiming - healing isn't for today. Try telling that to someone who has been healed.
1. God sometimes DOES cause sickness.
WRONG!! Sickness is a curse and Who took the curses on the tree? Either you believe His Word or you don't.
2. God uses sickness to bring about his plan.
He can use sickness for a greater good but HE DOESN'T cause sickness. Just like He uses anything problem we believe Him for.
3. God does not always take away sickness but has a much higher purpose in it remaining.
WRONG!! That's simply a 'to feel good' response.
4. God is glorified as much, if not more, when sickness remains.
Really, how? Sickness is glorying - straight from the pit, IMO. I am The Lord that heals you and God is no respecter of person.
So, I disagree that anyone has that gift of healing sign gift today for the same reason I reject that people speak in tongues.
You can reject all you want, you simply won't have it. No problem. And those that believe, have it. So everyone is happy. So what's your problem - telling others who have it, they don't? Spin your wheels all you want if it makes you feel better. In the meantime, don't say my God brings sickness on anyone! If you believe you are still under the curse, that's your problem.
I will continue to HATE all evil and sickness is evil. BUT, I do agree that God is able to do ALL things and nothing is impossible for him. God DOES sometimes heal and sometimes he does NOT heal and regardless of whether I am healed in this life or I must wait for my glorified, perfect body in heaven, I have learned to trust in God's grace to see me through. It is God who heals me spiritually and that is the more important. For someone to come along and say things such as "sickness is not from God" ergo the devil is doing this to
I do agree that God is able to do ALL things and nothing is impossible for him.
He does do all things - HE doesn't go against HIS WORD or LIE.
I must wait for my glorified, perfect body in heaven, I have learned to trust in God's grace to see me through. It is God who heals me spiritually and that is the more important.
Good attitude.
For someone to come along and say things such as "sickness is not from God" ergo the devil is doing this to.
For someone to come along and say things such as 'sickness can be from God' needs their oil checked badly!! Gee, I wonder if they are making money saying such things!
Let me ask you, PNSN, do you believe that Christians have a responsibility to test or hold to a standard those that claim to speak for Christ to see if they are from God? Can you tell me what your interpretation of the gift of “discernment” is for?
Well let me introduce one to you. I began going to Hinn’s church just after he took over from his disgraced father in law. There was no better at teaching scripture than he was. Having grown up in the Middle East he had a perspective on local customs and history that lent understanding to Biblical history.
It took about two years for him to begin to “leave his first calling” and drift into the healing concept. It was at that point that most in the church could sense the Holy Spirit leave. You ask about the “thousands”? I can personally attest to “thousands” who, with full faith, went up to “get healed” and not once did we witness a true healing. It became all about him. I can attest without reservation that Hinn is a charlatan who measures his success by the amount of money he brings in.
At one point he tearfully confessed to have gone off track and for about six months was back to Biblical teaching but then again drifted off and hasn’t been anything but a charlatan since.