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To: pastorbillrandles

So are the Spiritual Gifts actually active today or not? All that I have ever witnessed, especially by these Charismatic types, have always been emotional frauds. They celebrate false prophets and false prophecy, and they hate you when you challenge them.

My conclusion, as a result of all of this, was “blessed are they who have not seen, and yet still believed”. They are focused on “seeing” God, but not on serving Him.

So what is the conclusion here regarding spiritual gifts? Is such a thing as prophecy, healing, or whatnot, active in this day and age? I tend to think not.


24 posted on 02/14/2012 7:16:51 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Apollo5600

Joel

Acts 2

I Cor 12-14

should answer such questions for anyone used to taking God at His Word . . .

Given the Power of Holy Spirit, certainly satan has a huge investment in counterfeiting and tarnishing the real thing.

Those who PRESS-IN to God personally know the validity.

God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

He’s also not about to leave satan with all the supernatural manifestations in this END TIMES period.

However, He tends to do things HIS WAY, AND HIS TIMING and in contexts of His choosing.

And, He seems to like to slice catty wumpus across mortals prissy expectations.


26 posted on 02/14/2012 8:22:34 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Apollo5600
Definitely , I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge; Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.( I Cor 1:4-8) The gifts are to be with the church until the coming of the Lord!
27 posted on 02/14/2012 9:12:11 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: Apollo5600
So what is the conclusion here regarding spiritual gifts? Is such a thing as prophecy, healing, or whatnot, active in this day and age? I tend to think not.

I tend to think that they are active in this day and age but not nearly to the degree that many claim.

The Pentecostal/Charismatic movement is shallow. It pays too much attention to its own traditions and not enough to Scripture, too much to the Holy Spirit and not enough about Jesus, too much on the gifts and not enough on the fruit, too much about manifesting power and gifts and not enough manifesting Christ, too much on what they can get out of it in experience and not enough on how they can serve others and lead them to Christ.

34 posted on 02/14/2012 10:00:05 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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