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To: metmom
There is not one verse of Scripture that says that praying in tongues is praying in the Spirit.

That is simply VERY UNTRUE, MetMom.

Verses 14 and 15 below document how untrue that assertion is.

I documented that above and below here:

I Cor 14:
2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,[a] you will be talking only to God, [MOST folks consider that PRAYING] since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit,[b] but it will all be mysterious. . . . 4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, . . . 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is PRAYING, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will PRAY in the spirit,[e] and I will also pray in words I understand.

I believe you KNOW me well enough to know emphatically that I do NOT believe that everything labeled as tongues is authentically from Holy Spirit.

However, you ought also to know that labeling things which ARE of Holy Spirit as from satan is dangerously close to the unpardonable sin . . . if not over that line.

197 posted on 02/22/2012 8:08:51 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; boatbums; smvoice; caww

Look, while I recognize that verse, it does NOT say that praying in tongues = praying in the Spirit.

Do you think that someone can pray in the Spirit without speaking in tongues? Does Scripture state anywhere that praying is tongues is more effective or powerful than praying in one’s native language?

I am a die hard individualist. If someone can show me something out of Scripture that is verified in two to three places and is clear in its interpretation, and I am convinced that God is telling me something or expecting something out of me, then it’s a no-brainer.

If someone is telling me I have to do something that is not a moral issue but a matter of social convention or traditions of men over Scripture, then I will dig my heels in and fight if faster than anyone else you know. I will NOT do something just because everyone else is doing it and if anyone expects me to, then they’d better have really good Scriptural support for it or they can forget it.

The evidence of the Spirit filled life is walking in the Spirit, living the life of Christ as outlined in the Bible. It’s producing the fruit of the Spirit in one’s life as stated in Galatians 5. It’s having the mind of Christ in all things.

It is not praying or speaking in tongues.


203 posted on 02/22/2012 11:11:41 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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