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To: Zuriel; evangmlw

In a nutshell, anything you add to the finished work of Christ on the cross as a prerequisite for salvation is what you’re trusting in.

If you add baptism, then you are trusting baptism to save you and you are saying that the death of Christ isn’t enough.

If you add taking communion, then it’s the eating that saves you, not Christ.

Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. NOTHING else is capable of remitting sin and granting forgiveness. If it was Christ died for nothing.

Christ’s death alone is sufficient. If it wasn’t, Christ would not have said *It is finished*.

Being dunked in water baptism does not save anyone. It’s not Christ and _________.

It’s Christ, period.


145 posted on 02/19/2012 9:24:27 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Indeed, dear sister in Christ, any suggestion that the blood of Christ was inadequate is an insult to God.

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, [I say], whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven. - Col 1:20

God's Name is I AM.

146 posted on 02/19/2012 9:45:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom

**Christ’s death alone is sufficient. If it wasn’t, Christ would not have said *It is finished*.**

He finished the requirement for sacrifice for sin. “There remaineth no more sacrifice for sin”.

**In a nutshell, anything you add to the finished work of Christ on the cross**

I didn’t ADD anything, HE laid down the requirements that make one “buried with him”, as Paul referred to it.

Jesus christ is the one who said one ‘must be born of the water and of the Spirit’, and commanded baptism at the end of Matthew and Mark. He commanded ‘that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name beginning at Jerusalem. Where is that fulfilled....Acts 2:38.

The apostles went about ‘dunking’ people just as fast as they could under awkward (Jews in the presense of Gentiles: The conversion of Cornelious and household included an order for immediate baptism ‘in the name of the Lord’), harrowing and painful (tortured and beaten Paul and Silas didn’t dilly dally), the eunuch didn’t pass up on what Philip apparently taught while riding in desert. Paul promptly RE-baptized men in Ephesus.

You’ve got to move a muscle to be born again, nomatter how you dodge the water baptism issue. Whether going to hear a preacher, making an effort to repent, making a verbal confession, or getting ‘dunked’ (You need to repent for mocking it, imo), there’s effort in being converted.

His apostles were right; and your claiming Christ yet rejecting his and his apostles words.

The eighteen wheeler is warmered up, gotta go for now. Adios.


149 posted on 02/20/2012 5:37:57 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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