Mitt's Mormon Army: How It Works

BuzzFeed ^ | February 3, 2012 | McKay Coppins

[RFEngineer]

“And you claim they have no RIGHT to do that?? “

Did I say that?

I’m not reading your post #113. it’s too long. Can you distill it down to a salient point?

[humblegunner]

But you said I would be "overstepping the bounds of political reason" in applying such criteria.

[Elsie]

Friend, it is not a dodge to not answer your question.

BINGO!!!

WE have a WINNER!!!

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Elsie]

Who are you to even ask that question?

 

MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 

                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple

                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)

26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).

 

 

Revision 46.5

Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.

All rights liable to be abused.

[ansel12]

We have never had such a high ranking religious figure in this position, Bishop Romney, who even became a Cardinal (Stake President) is expected to rise even higher in his cult religion, he is thought by some Mormons to be fulfillment of Prophecy, and he in his own heart, believes that he will become a God over earth (a different earth), Mormonism drives Bishop Romney, not politics.

This Romney/cult business is unique in our history, you aren’t impressing people with your intelligence by not even knowing what the situation is, and by being limited to only being able to compare it to your past experiences.

[Elsie]

The Constitution says any American can vote or not vote for anyone they wish based on any criteria they wish It is abject stupidity to say “Don’t vote for Romney because he is LDS”

What?

Can't you make up your mind??

[trisham]

Wow. That’s illuminating.

[RFEngineer]

“But you said I would be “overstepping the bounds of political reason” in applying such criteria.”

Views do not have to be reasonable to be constitutionally expressed - I agree with that.

If you are attempting to convince people that they should not vote for someone based on their religion - as is being done on this thread - that has no support in the Constitution (but the right to say it does have Constitutional support)

Thank you for allowing the clarification

I agree with your post to me, and stated similarly on previous posts on the thread.

[Jim Robinson]

I may not be (actually am far from) the best Christian in the world, but I was taught as a child to be highly suspicious of false prophets and false prophecy. Can’t site actual chapter and verse, but I do recall that it’s in the Christian bible. I flatly do not believe and will not believe that the so-called book of Mormon is the true word of God. That’s just a fact of life.

However, I’d never vote for that abortionist/socialist paperhanging SOB anyway, regardless of his religion.

[Elsie]

I guess you’ve already messed with my NEXT question; which was related to the MORMON Word of Wisdom.

[Elsie]

It would be helpful if you would distill your questions down to “yes” or “no”.

Ok...

Would you vote for a person whose religion says that he cannot eat MEAT in warm weather?

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Elsie]

I see you have chosen to IGNORE 113: so be it.

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That should be enough. If you then go on to say “He’s a religious Heretic, and should not vote against Jesus”, then you are overstepping the bounds of political reason, politeness and the Constitution.

Your logic ability seems to be lacking.

[humblegunner]

You know, there just might be a couple of the "Anyone But Mitt" stickers left if you don't have one already.

[RFEngineer]

Ah, you think I’m Mormon.

I’m not. You have the most visually painful posts, though.

[Elsie]

Beats me!

I ain’t no lawyer and seldom play one on TV!

[Elsie]

Aaaaaah...

[RFEngineer]

“I see you have chosen to IGNORE 113: so be it.”

No I didn’t ignore it, I told you I needed the Cliff Notes version.

Please summarize if you want me to answer #113

[Elsie]

I do not believe that all Mormons share his politics and policies - I actually believe it’s closer to the opposite.

I agree with you here.

But just WAIT until the returns are in in UTAH.

America will SEE just whether MORMONs vote their RELIGION or their POLITICs.

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[Elsie]

1. As you say, it is the right of free citizens to vote for whomever they wish, on any basis, including religion alone, if that is their wish.

2. Expressing views on a public forum that border on religious hatred towards political candidates is not pro-American, or pro-Constitution, or pro-democracy, as such should be discouraged through open debate. PLEASE!!!

Pick one or the other and quit trying to be on BOTH sides of this issue!