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To: count-your-change
They too were measuring the Scriptures by means of their traditions.

What is your scriptural basis for drawing that conclusion?

Christ himself clearly attributes their error to pedantry, not tradition, according to Matthew 12:27.

But if ye had known what [this] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Similarly, if you had not been trying to use Scripture, instead of heeding Scripture, you might not have made such a glaringly fallacious statement.

254 posted on 02/07/2012 5:48:30 AM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger
Jesus does explain what he means in Matthew chapter 15 and particularly in Mark chapter 7. It was tradition that caused the Pharisees to overstep and set aside God's commandments in order to follow their traditions.

Showing mercy and healing a man's hand on the sabbath was not against the Law even though it could have waited until the next day.
Hence Jesus quoted Prov. 21:3.

In John 5:10 it was not excessive attention to detail that caused the Jews to tell the healed man he could not pick up his cot on the sabbath, Jesus had shown acts of mercy were acceptable and certain works even on the sabbath, but their tradition. They added to the Law a commandment of men calling what the man did a working or labor thus forbidden on the sabbath.

The apostle Paul had been trained as a Pharisee and he attributed his progress in Judaism to being zealous for the traditions of his forefathers. (Gal. 1:14)

So I think my statement, “They too were measuring the Scriptures by means of their traditions.” is so.

Earlier you mentioned Enoch and Elijah. What happened to them? How do you know?

The traditions that are held so near and dear, for example, the bodily assumption of Mary into heaven, do just what the traditions of the Pharisees did....render the truth of God's word invalid.

It becomes necessary to argue that Paul's description of Christ's resurrection was not as a spirit, that flesh and blood can inherit the heavenly kingdom, that Mary's resurrection would not follow the pattern of Christ's, that long before Christ was offered as a sacrifice in heaven men were taken bodily to life in heaven...if one is to follow tradition.

So who is not paying heed to the Scriptures?

255 posted on 02/07/2012 9:06:07 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: papertyger
Jesus does explain what he means in Matthew chapter 15 and particularly in Mark chapter 7. It was tradition that caused the Pharisees to overstep and set aside God's commandments in order to follow their traditions.

Showing mercy and healing a man's hand on the sabbath was not against the Law even though it could have waited until the next day.
Hence Jesus quoted Prov. 21:3.

In John 5:10 it was not excessive attention to detail that caused the Jews to tell the healed man he could not pick up his cot on the sabbath, Jesus had shown acts of mercy were acceptable and certain works even on the sabbath, but their tradition. They added to the Law a commandment of men calling what the man did a working or labor thus forbidden on the sabbath.

The apostle Paul had been trained as a Pharisee and he attributed his progress in Judaism to being zealous for the traditions of his forefathers. (Gal. 1:14)

So I think my statement, “They too were measuring the Scriptures by means of their traditions.” is so.

Earlier you mentioned Enoch and Elijah. What happened to them? How do you know?

The traditions that are held so near and dear, for example, the bodily assumption of Mary into heaven, do just what the traditions of the Pharisees did....render the truth of God's word invalid.

It becomes necessary to argue that Paul's description of Christ's resurrection was not as a spirit, that flesh and blood can inherit the heavenly kingdom, that Mary's resurrection would not follow the pattern of Christ's, that long before Christ was offered as a sacrifice in heaven men were taken bodily to life in heaven...if one is to follow tradition.

So who is not paying heed to the Scriptures?

256 posted on 02/07/2012 9:06:36 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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