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To: papertyger; presently no screen name
If God designed his word to be your teacher why didn’t he give us a book instead of a church?

LOL
The BOOK was given before the church ever came into existence.
Jesus himself used the Old Testament scriptures to testify who he was . The Apostles used the Old Testament scriptures to testify of who Jesus was and they didn't do it in churches , and they didn't do it on Sunday , they did it on the Sabbath in Jewish Temples.

Every single person present when The Holy Spirit was given on Pentecost was Jewish . The head count given was only the head count of how many Jewish males received The Holy Spirit . Whenever head counts were taken in Israel it was only the males that were counted . In fact every single head count taken in the New Testament of a believer was the head count of a Jewish man . If you don't believe that just try looking for head counts once the Gospel was taken to the gentiles ... you won't find any exact numbers saying how many were saved .

The Old Testament if full of Messianic prophesies that testify of Jesus . In fact every single Holy Day that given in the Old Testament also testifies of him .

The second half of the book was not needed to preach the Gospel , because the old book had everything in it needed to tell the whole world who he was/is .

Just one small sample of Jesus in the Old Testament


Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.



108 posted on 02/03/2012 10:10:57 PM PST by Lera
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To: Lera
LOL The BOOK was given before the church ever came into existence.

You can qualify to your heart's content: that statement is simply false.

113 posted on 02/03/2012 10:28:39 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Lera
Whenever head counts were taken in Israel it was only the males that were counted

Thank you. I didn't know that but it explains the 5,000 (2 fish and 5 loaves) and how they say it could have been 15,000 to 20,000 there. And more left over than when they started. That's our God - He always supplies more than enough.

137 posted on 02/03/2012 11:44:05 PM PST by presently no screen name
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