Posted on 02/02/2012 6:27:03 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
The evil contained in some of those “edicts” or whatever they are called is ominous. I have often heard Catholics say it was the secular authorities that carried out torture and executions but one can easily see it was under direction of the RCC. What deceit.
You are one well-read man, Harley. Truly.
Who is the patron saint of email? Why, Sir Francis of a CCs.
ROTFLOLOL!!!
That is the best line of the decade! It'll be hard to beat.
You are one well-read man, Harley. Truly.
Who is the patron saint of email? Why, Sir Francis of a CCs.
ROTFLOLOL!!!
That is the best line of the decade! It'll be hard to beat.
A sense of "harley" humor!
And if I may quote the great Protestant John Wycliffe, killed for translating/distributing Bibles in the common vernacular:
“The Bible is for the government of the people, by the people, and for the people.” - This quote from the 1300s!
AMEN!!!
The wool they try to pull over the eyes of the sheep is really frightening.
Thank God for true historians.
Great seeing you around again.
Prayers and hugs.
Someone needs to tell clue this over educated blow hard that the United States of America was NOT founded as a democracy.
The United States of America was founded as a Republic.
A Republic representative form of government can only last as long as the people are not corrupt . Once the people become corrupt and find they can vote themselves a way to line their pockets that they forget what type of goverment they had. It isn’t until then that the process starts to be democratic ... trouble is that by then the rapid downward spiral starts until it ends just like every other democracy has ended ...WITH IT”S PEOPLE IN BONDAGE
Clueless just clueless .
I hope this joker doesn’t teach history or government
Great seeing you around again.
Prayers and hugs.
...The testimony of Emilio Castelar, the famous Spanish statesman, orator and scholar, is interesting and valuable. Castelar had been professor of Philosophy in the University of Madrid before he entered politics, and he was made president of the republic which was set up by the Liberals in 1873. As a Roman Catholic he hated Calvin and Calvinism. Says he: "It was necessary for the republican movement that there should come a morality more austere than Luther's, the morality of Calvin, and a Church more democratic than the German, the Church of Geneva. The Anglo-Saxon democracy has for its lineage a book of a primitive society — the Bible. It is the product of a severe theology learned by the few Christian fugitives in the gloomy cities of Holland and Switzerland, where the morose shade of Calvin still wanders . . . And it remains serenely in its grandeur, forming the most dignified, most moral and most enlightened portion of the human race."4
...It is, of course, not claimed that the Presbyterian Church was the only source from which sprang the principles upon which this republic is founded, but it is claimed that the principles found in the Westminster Standards were the chief basis for the republic, and that "The Presbyterian Church taught, practiced, and maintained in fulness, first in this land that form of government in accordance with which the Republic has been organized." (Roberts).
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This striking similarity between the principles set forth in the Form of Government of the Presbyterian Church and those set forth in the Constitution of the United States has caused much comment. "When the fathers of our Republic sat down to frame a system of representative and popular government," says Dr. E. W. Smith, "their task was not so difficult as some have imagined. They had a model to work by."11
"If the average American citizen were asked, who was the founder of America, the true author of our great Republic, he might be puzzled to answer. We can imagine his amazement at hearing the answer given to this question by the famous German historian, Ranke, one of the profoundest scholars of modern times. Says Ranke, 'John Calvin was the virtual founder of America.'"12
D'Aubigne, whose history of the Reformation is a classic, writes: "Calvin was the founder of the greatest of republics. The Pilgrims who left their country in the reign of James I, and landing on the barren soil of New England, founded populous and mighty colonies, were his sons, his direct and legitimate sons; and that American nation which we have seen growing so rapidly boasts as its father the humble Reformer on the shore of Lake Leman."13
Dr. E. W. Smith says, "These revolutionary principles of republican liberty and self-government, taught and embodied in the system of Calvin, were brought to America, and in this new land where they have borne so mighty a harvest were planted, by whose hands? — the hands of the Calvinists. The vital relation of Calvin and Calvinism to the founding of the free institutions of America, however strange in some ears the statement of Ranke may have sounded, is recognized and affirmed by historians of all lands and creeds."14
All this has been thoroughly understood and candidly acknowledged by such penetrating and philosophic historians as Bancroft, who far though he was from being Calvinistic in his own personal convictions, simply calls Calvin "the father of America," and adds: "He who will not honor the memory and respect the influence of Calvin knows but little of the origin of American liberty."
Calvinism in America
Cordially,
He claims that the United States is a democracy fifty-four times in his article. Any freshman prep school student can cite Benjamin Franklin : “A Republic, if you can keep it.” Either JOHN C. RAGER is blazingly ignorant or cunningly duplicitous.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
“Well, Doctor, what have we got: a Republic or a Monarchy?”
As there was never any serious discussion of a Democracy.
I worked for a RC whose hope was that someday the US would be ruled by a "benevolent" RC King. I {{{shudder}}} at that more than having a President who wears funny underwear.
One pleasure we still retain is the ability to study Bible doctrine and world history independently of the propaganda machines manifest by this article. I’m amazed that anybody with more than a 10th grade intellect or a 3rd grader grasp of Church History would ever even consider the RCC having any impact upon American political thought.
(Maybe some influence on Teddy Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi, but that really is the most they can hope to have influenced and not in any favorable fashion.)
No impact eh? Mary Surratt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Surratt John Wilkes Booth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth
Exactly.. they have a monarchy ..and now they want to claim democracy ... only a fool could buy that story
All one has to do is listen to the rhetoric that flows from todays pope ...one could not call it "democratic.. it is more socialist/Robinhood in tone..
Amen boatbums! Jesus is returning as the KING of KINGS. But I always knew that. I never heard catholicism teach He's already set up His millennial Kingdom.
DBK - when did they start teaching that?
on a break from the RCIA I guess...
INDEED.
That’s One of the MORE absurd doctrines of demons in the whole Vatican Ashteroth-Mary-Goddess institution.
. . . with not a shred of Bible
. . . nor a shred of history to support it.
INDEED. . . . and quite in keeping with similar pronouncements from the likes of other brazen Marxist, dyed-in-the-wool globalists like --her unroyal lowness--her hideous heinous--Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Machiavelli de Marx de Stalin de Pol Pot de Sade . . . --Puhlousey --OThuga --Dillbo Klintoon --LBJ
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