[JSteff]

Only with an understanding of the separation of God and man in a Matrix (the movie) type of world could one see and understand the difference between God and Mary and references in approaching Mary.

The wording is necessarily a bit flowery and flowing. It is difficult for most to understand the separation, and yet the union of the mother of Christ to God. Not an easy concept for many to grasp the nuances.

Similar to the many judges to grasping the word in the constitution and concepts or the church and the state and not to understand the separation of the two. It really takes a thinking mind to give it more than just passing acknowledgment or the words written and the concepts involved.

Many never get the concepts of the meaning -vs- the words right. But to those who do it is silly to think the justices are so unable to do so also. Not a perfect explanation by any means.

I have a great T-Shirt that says "I can tell it to you, but I can not understand it for you"
Although that shirt and the wording is referring to computer/tech stuff it applies to this situation and discussion.

The TV commercial "No, I am not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn" probably could also work.

[Quix]

Sorry but I think we part convictions on such scores, too.

I do NOT read Christ in the Gospels as doing

ANYTHING

REMOTELY

like instituting

ANOTHER hierarchical PHARISEE LADEN INSTITUTIONAL PILE OF RELIGIOUS MUMBO-JUMBO

for any reason

—particularly to rationalize God’s fiercely hated idolatry and blasphemy stuff.

Christ had a very straight-forward, clear and simple theology.

When one needs lawyers to ferret out

the TRULY TRUEST TRULY TRUE meanings of a truly critical basic spiritual issues of a walk with God

then the group or individual or institution has already fallen way off the cliff and Holy Spirit has long gone from blessing such horrifics.