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Special report -Mormonism besieged by the modern age [Lds church is hemorrhaging in member losses]
Reuters ^ | Jan. 29, 2012 | Peter Henderson and Kristina Cooke

Posted on 02/01/2012 4:50:21 AM PST by Colofornian

...A religious studies class late last year at Utah State University...was unusual for two reasons. The small group of students, faculty and faithful there to hear Mormon Elder Marlin Jensen were openly troubled about the future...asking hard questions. And Jensen was uncharacteristically frank...

Did the leaders...know that members are "leaving in droves?" a woman asked.

"We are aware," said Jensen, according to a tape recording of his unscripted remarks. "And I'm speaking of the 15 men that are above me in the hierarchy of the church."...

"My own daughter," he then added, "has come to me and said, 'Dad, why didn't you ever tell me that Joseph Smith was a polygamist?'..."Everything's out there for them to consume if they want to Google it."...

SNIP

...census data from some foreign countries...show that the retention rate for their converts is as low as 25 percent. In the U.S., only about half of Mormons are active members of the church...

SNIP

...the Web has intensified debate over...the history the church teaches.

Not since...the 1837 failure of a church bank in Kirtland, Ohio, have so many left the church, Jensen said.

"Maybe since Kirtland, we've never had a period of - I'll call it apostasy, like we're having now," he told the group in Logan.

SNIP

...a non-practicing Mormon...for years filed away on a mental "shelf" concerns about the historical veracity of the religion's central text..."It came to a point where the shelf was too heavy," he said. He quit attending ..."Ok, I'm done."

SNIP

"There have been discussions at LDS church headquarters about...Romney's presidential bid," a person briefed on the talks said. "One concern is that Romney's campaign could further energize evangelical antipathy toward the church..."

..."having a Mormon president could raise the church's profile and legitimize it in other countries."

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: abandonment; faith; inman; lds; mormon
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To: BlueMoose; reaganaut; Elsie; greyfoxx39
Poor logic. LOGIC? That word is NOT found in the BoM! It is a poor TACTIC.

I've wondered if you were still here moose, slithering around seeking whom you might devour with your lies. Funny how you haven't EVER answered my repeated questions about Brigham Young's condemnation of the Joseph Smith translation of the bible as fraudulent. No doubt you are lying to and or concealing it from your flock as well.

As far as your "logic" comment, we are very well aware of your cult's instructions to "trust the heart" rather than "searching the scriptures to test whether the Joseph Smith story is true".

If you have a "burning bosom" let me advise TUMS. If you want God's truth, it is there in full in his word, WHICH DID NOT PASS AWAY LIKE YOUR MISSIONARIES TEACH.....And as you know, don't even bother responding with anything out of the KJV...YOU OWN the Joseph Smith translation as you have not condemned him as a fraud, LIKE IT OR NOT !

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Proverbs 28:26
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matthew 24:34-36 (in Context) Matthew 24 (Whole Chapter) Mark 13:31
Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:30-32 (in Context) Mark 13 (Whole Chapter) Luke 21:33
Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

One more thing moose...Expect to see and hear about me in your locale. God, having prepared me and trained me for this fight, is urging me to take this battle closer to the gates of hell. I'm coming in to your midst to rescue members of your flock one at a time, and spreading the word to Alaska Christian congregations to inoculate them against the lies and deceptions of your missionaries. Your only hope is to tell them the WHOLE STORY in advance so they they think YOU ARE A LIAR when they hear it from me.

My God is great and he is bringing the full power of the truth against you and yours soon. Repent while you live and be saved.

Romans 16:20
And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

141 posted on 02/02/2012 9:19:11 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: AnTiw1
And I tried to be humorous.

Okay - didn't get it at first. On these Mormon types of threads, there are those who are ready to jump on you for the least little thing. I guess I'm a little "gun shy".

142 posted on 02/02/2012 9:26:34 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Link for #143

here

144 posted on 02/02/2012 9:32:18 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney seems like a creature put on Earth to blend in with the humans and report back what he finds.)
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To: freedomlover

...that was in a dark hat...


145 posted on 02/02/2012 9:36:13 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: LadyDoc
I disagree with LDS theology, but I figure that those who blast the LDS will go on to blast the Catholics.

So, you'd support a religion that says, God was once man, he slept with Mary, Jesus is the brother of Satan, men will go onto become gods if they practice polygamy, woman can go to heaven and become celestial brides if their husband calls them up, etc... because you think protestants will attack Catholics?

146 posted on 02/02/2012 9:41:52 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: MEGoody

No prob! It’s alphanumerics on a screen ;^)


147 posted on 02/02/2012 9:56:01 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...
The mormon church even copied the "I am a mormon campaign" from scientology, LOL!

Link

148 posted on 02/02/2012 9:56:13 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney seems like a creature put on Earth to blend in with the humans and report back what he finds.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Laughing Pictures, Images and Photos
149 posted on 02/02/2012 10:00:45 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Graybeard58
This woman first introduced me to the lies of mormonism and its false prophet, many years ago. Who will be the first to tell me who she is?

Just ask Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_M._Brodie

150 posted on 02/02/2012 10:11:57 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: greyfoxx39
Seriously? The LDS Church or its advertising crew *bought* an image of a black man and a black child from GettyImages (a stock image company) to use, rather than photographing a black Mormon family?

Give me a sec to run a Tineye search on this.

151 posted on 02/02/2012 10:56:36 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster; greyfoxx39

Let me know what you find, if that is the case, then it is priceless.


152 posted on 02/02/2012 11:05:40 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: reaganaut; Scoutmaster; greyfoxx39
Let me know what you find, if that is the case, then it is priceless.

me too

153 posted on 02/02/2012 11:11:34 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Scoutmaster; reaganaut; Godzilla
The LDS Church or its advertising crew *bought* an image of a black man and a black child from GettyImages (a stock image company) to use, rather than photographing a black Mormon family?

here ya go


154 posted on 02/02/2012 11:23:03 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney seems like a creature put on Earth to blend in with the humans and report back what he finds.)
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To: Graybeard58

I have a first edition hardbound copy of her ‘No Man Knows’ tome.


155 posted on 02/02/2012 11:37:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Graybeard58

I have a first edition hardbound copy of her ‘No Man Knows’ tome. Even still has the kaki colored dust jacket.


156 posted on 02/02/2012 11:38:12 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: LadyDoc
No way would I ever bash the Catholics, you see they believe in the same GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, and GOD THE HOLY GHOST. As a prostatent that is good enough for me. That Trinity is the Creator of all things that are.

LDS do not believe in the Holy Trinity as we do, in fact what they believe is actually the unpardonable sin.

157 posted on 02/02/2012 12:04:46 PM PST by annieokie
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To: SENTINEL

GOD SPEED and peace be with you.


158 posted on 02/02/2012 12:11:49 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Elsie

Lol, I just got it, I am definitely not a good writer.


159 posted on 02/02/2012 12:43:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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