I really have no idea why you seem to want to defend these NON-Canonical books in the Old Testament called the Apocryphal books. I never said they were not included in the Septuagint - which, may I remind you, is a GREEK translation of the Hebrew Old Testament. The Dead Sea Scrolls do not prove that those books were included in the Jewish canon of Scripture and, even though they have as a nation rejected Jesus as the Messiah, it still does not mean that they had no say in what made up the JEWISH Old Testament. The Apostle Paul said unto the Jewish nation were committed the "Oracles of God" (
Romans 3:1-3. If they denied canonicity to those books, then they had that authority. From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls:
The Dead Sea Scrolls are a collection of 972 texts from the Tanach and extra-biblical documents found between 1947 and 1956 on the northwest shore of the Dead Sea, from which they derive their name. They were specifically located at Khirbet Qumran in the British Mandate for Palestine, in what is now known as the West Bank.
The texts are of great religious and historical significance, as they include the oldest known surviving copies of Biblical and extra-biblical documents and preserve evidence of great diversity in late Second Temple Judaism. They are written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, mostly on parchment, but with some written on papyrus.[1] These manuscripts generally date between 150 BCE and 70 CE.[2] The scrolls are traditionally identified with the ancient Jewish sect called the Essenes, though some recent interpretations have challenged this association and argue that the scrolls were penned by priests in Jerusalem, Zadokites, or other unknown Jewish groups.[3][4]
,br> The Dead Sea Scrolls are traditionally divided into three groups: "Biblical" manuscripts (copies of texts from the Hebrew Bible), which comprise roughly 40% of the identified scrolls; "Apocryphal" or "Pseudepigraphical" manuscripts (known documents from the Second Temple Period like Enoch, Jubilees, Tobit, Sirach, additional psalms, etc., that were not ultimately canonized in the Hebrew Bible), which comprise roughly 30% of the identified scrolls; and "Sectarian" manuscripts (previously unknown documents that speak to the rules and beliefs of a particular group or groups within greater Judaism) like the Community Rule, War Scroll, Pesher on Habakkuk (Hebrew: פשר pesher = "Commentary"), and the Rule of the Blessing, which comprise roughly 30% of the identified scrolls.
I noticed that you have yet to address the OBVIOUS problem of there being errors in these books that nullify their Divine source. God does NOT make errors. Before I spend anymore time on this topic, I would appreciate if you would explain how that is not a problem for you. If you do not care to continue the conversation, of course, you have that option, too.
I noticed that you have yet to address the OBVIOUS problem of there being errors in these books that nullify their Divine source. God does NOT make errors. Before I spend anymore time on this topic, I would appreciate if you would explain how that is not a problem for you. If you do not care to continue the conversation, of course, you have that option, too.Well the reason I have not addressed the issue is that they are not errors.
How about addressing the fact that Jesus and the Apostles cited the septuagint 200+ times.
And if you beleive that the Deutrocanonicals contained error how about these errors and contradictions:God is Truth and cannot lie;
1Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, Jehovah hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets; and Jehovah hath spoken evil concerning thee.
2Ch 18:22 Now therefore, behold, Jehovah hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets; and Jehovah hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Jer 4:10 Then said I, Ah, Lord Jehovah! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace; whereas the sword reacheth unto the life.
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.
GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood. GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood. NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.
GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah. LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.
1Sa 17:50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David. 1Sa 17:51 Then David ran, and stood over the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw that their champion was dead, they fled.
MT 3:11-14, JN 1:31-34 John realized the true identity of Jesus (as the Messiah) either prior to the actual Baptism, or from the Baptism onward. The very purpose of John's baptism was to reveal Jesus to Israel. MT 11:2-3 After the Baptism, John sends his disciples to ask if Jesus is the Messiah.
Should we throw out these books, I mean if your criteria is "error" BTW I have about 120 more of these errors.