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To: boatbums; FatherofFive
So, are you saying that you believe the Deuterocanonical/Apocryphal books are divinely-inspired Scripture on the same level as all the other books in the Bible?

Yes absolutely!

FRiend I m a revert Catholic. I left over several issues and became a virulent anti-Catholic for years.

I was Challenged by Fatheroffive over several issues and began to do a lot of research and found out what the Catholic Church actually taught and why. One of the issues was the canon of scripture, When you look at the textual translations the similarities between the Septuagint and every Bible we use today is mind boggling.

The site I showed you has 200 verses.

There is a book on amazon that has even more I will look up the URL later and send it to you.

331 posted on 01/31/2012 2:38:18 AM PST by verga (Only the ignorant disdain intelligence.)
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To: verga
If you are stating that the Apocryphal books are also divinely-inspired Scripture on the same level as all the other mutually agreed upon Scripture, then you need to explain how God would have permitted errors to be written in those books and passed off as God-breathed. From the link http://carm.org/why-apocrypha-not-in-bible, we see that:

The Catholic Church has not always accepted the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha was not officially accepted by the Catholic Church at a universal council until 1546 at the Council of Trent. This is over a millennium and a half after the books were written, and was a counter reaction to the Protestant Reformation.4

Many church Fathers rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture, and many just used them for devotional purposes. For example, Jerome, the great Biblical scholar and translator of the Latin Vulgate, rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture though, supposedly under pressure, he did make a hurried translation of it. In fact, most of the church fathers in the first four centuries of the Church rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture. Along with Jerome, names include Origen, Cyril of Jerusalem, and Athanasius.

The Apocryphal books were placed in Bibles before the Council of Trent and after, but were placed in a separate section because they were not of equal authority. The Apocrypha rightfully has some devotional purposes, but it is not inspired.

The Apocrypha contains a number of false teachings (see: Errors in the Apocrypha). (To check the following references, see http://www.newadvent.org/bible.)

•The command to use magic (Tobit 6:5-7).
•Forgiveness of sins by almsgiving (Tobit 4:11; 12:9).
•Offering of money for the sins of the dead (2 Maccabees 12:43-45).

And we wonder where the Catholic Church got the idea of charging money for "indulgences"?

376 posted on 01/31/2012 6:11:44 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: verga; boatbums

One the other hand.. see http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Ancients_on_Scripture.html#2


383 posted on 01/31/2012 7:53:10 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust in the Lord Jesus to save you as a contrite damned+morally destitute sinner + be forgiven+live)
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