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To: caww
Pius IV required the bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read .."even Catholic versions of the Scripture",... unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such readings was likely to prove beneficial.’.

‘Since it is clear from experience that if the Sacred Books are permitted everywhere and without discrimination in the vernacular, there will by reason of the boldness of men arise therefrom more harm than good, the matter is in this respect left to the judgment of the bishop or inquisitor, who may with the advice of the pastor or confessor permit the reading of the Sacred Books translated into the vernacular by Catholic authors to those who they know will derive from such reading no harm but rather an increase of faith and piety, which permission they must have in writing.

For real??? Reading the Bible will harm someone?????

All they're afraid of is that whoever reads the Bible will have their eyes opened to the truth (something hearing truth can do for someone) and LEAVE the Catholic church, which tends to happen when one learns the truth.

Truth has this annoying tendency to set people free.

92 posted on 01/23/2012 2:22:16 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
For real??? Reading the Bible will harm someone????? All they're afraid of is that whoever reads the Bible will have their eyes opened to the truth (something hearing truth can do for someone) and LEAVE the Catholic church, which tends to happen when one learns the truth.

you are very hard to get through to..the Catholics brought the bible from Christ's time to the present We are not afraid of people reading the bible, we compiled it. Why would anyone who reads the bible that the Catholic church compiled, protected, preserved, copied (by hand) be mislead by its contents...get serious, the Catholics did it, there were no others, for over 1,500 years we were the only ones there...and you doubt our sincerity?????please

100 posted on 01/23/2012 2:54:09 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: metmom

Yes a faulty translation that is edited to support a heresy is harmful. A contemporary example would be the inseration of the article “a” in the JW version of the Gospel of John’s first chapter. “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.”

You no doubt caught the difference and since you have an approved translation (not in the sense the Catholic Church approved it)you can compare and call out the error. But think if you did not know this was a JW Bible and think if this was a popular version making the rounds and you did not have another Bible to compare it with? How much easier would it be for a person to full into heresy regarding the nature of Christ.

This was the problem with some translations. Either they were translated poorly or were deliberate attempts to bolster heresy. They might also include non-canonical books such as the Gospel of Thomas.

What was forbidden was non approved translations of Scripture. It is true that before Gutenberg having a copy of the Bible was rare. It was also true that many people were illiterate and could not read the Bible.

Many lay people did own Psalters.


102 posted on 01/23/2012 2:56:03 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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