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We are sealed with the promised Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. Jesus promised that those who believe in Him would NEVER perish. I’ll believe Him over the Catholic church any day.

me too, but if you think that Jesus gave mankind free reign to do whatever they pleased and still be worthy of heaven, I think that you are in for a rude surprise. I agree that mon our own we could never come close to atonement for our sins. Christ came to cover our butts when it came to the sinful nature of mankind....only He could do that. However, that does not give us the authority to do as we please, ignore limits, act as savages. You are saying that Moslem terrorists need not worry because Christ died for all mankind and that they will not be held accountable. I don't think so. I would hate to think that Christianity is so mealy mouthed as to allow any and all behavior and still attain salvation...how about abortion doctors, are they OK because Jesus died for their horrendous sins...I hope not.

"how about abortion doctors, are they OK because Jesus died for their horrendous sins...I hope not."

I have read some of your posts on this thread and disagree with you about several things, but on this we can agree. Christ did not die for the unrepentant. :)

me too, but if you think that Jesus gave mankind free reign to do whatever they pleased and still be worthy of heaven, I think that you are in for a rude surprise.

My word. You have GOT to stop believing the lies fed to you by the Catholic church and other Catholic in that area.

Show me ONE poster who holds to that line of thinking. Show me ONE verse in Scripture that supports it.

I can point to plenty of Scripture verses that teach exactly the opposite and plenty of FReepers who will do likewise. Not one of us looks at freedom in Christ as license to sin. Period. I've said it before and posted Scripture to that effect before and I'll do it again if need be for it to finally sink in.

However, that does not give us the authority to do as we please, ignore limits, act as savages. You are saying that Moslem terrorists need not worry because Christ died for all mankind and that they will not be held accountable. I don't think so. I would hate to think that Christianity is so mealy mouthed as to allow any and all behavior and still attain salvation...how about abortion doctors, are they OK because Jesus died for their horrendous sins...

Show me where I said or implied that or admit to bearing false witness. I'll wait for you to provide the link. Or admit that you were wrong.