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To: D-fendr; Jvette; metmom
>> We see individuals who believe they have the authority of God and Holy Spirit.<<

Your argument isn’t with us. It’s with scripture.

Romans 8:10: Paul tells us, "If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin." Galatians 2:20: Paul speaks of himself and all true Christians: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me." Ephesians 3:17-18: Referring to the "inner man," Paul mentions that he prays "that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith." I John 3:24: John writes: "Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He has given us."

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Now, if you don’t think that Christians have the “mind of Christ in you” maybe you have more serious problems.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

986 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:38 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Your argument isn’t with us. It’s with scripture.

There isn't any "us' there. Just you.

And you aren't scripture, you don't speak for Paul or John or the Holy Spirit or Christ or the Church. You don't judge who is saved and who is condemned.

Hubris is too small a word.

988 posted on 01/27/2012 1:14:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: CynicalBear; D-fendr; metmom

****Your argument isn’t with us. It’s with scripture.****

There is a difference, though a protestant might never accede it, between what you think those Scriptures say and what they actually do say.

There is difference, though a protestant might never accede it, between the believer who is given the grace of the Spirit and the authority which Jesus gave His Apostles, especially Peter.

When we put on the mind of Christ, and Christ lives in us it is to do the will of the Father, which is that we love Him and are obedient to Him, even unto to death. Christ, alive in us, works through us and in us so that we love God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength and love our neighbor as He loves us and we love ourselves.

Christ living in us is a call to action, to be humble, merciful, compassionate, giving and forgiving.

We do not and cannot know the mind of God. We are given the Spirit so that we may believe, do the work for which He calls us and so that we can know what is His truth.

One of His truths, which the protestant rejects, is that Jesus left His Apostles with authority and with Peter as their leader. As their guide, He sent the Holy Spirit.

We have Scripture, which is His inspired word, as a guide, but we also have the Church and both are protected by the Spirit.

Protestants who believe that they and they alone can infallibly interpret Scripture and doctrine are taking upon themselves an authority that is not given them.


1,003 posted on 01/27/2012 8:25:19 PM PST by Jvette
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