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To: Jvette
>> So, there are untold people who have been bodily resurrected into heaven?<<

Not of New Testaments saints which Mary would have been one. It would be a lie to include those Old Testament saints with the New Testament saints which we are concerned with in this case.

900 posted on 01/24/2012 9:31:50 AM PST by CynicalBear
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The Fatima apparitions - “She opened Her hands once more, as She had done the two previous months. The rays [of light] appeared to penetrate the earth, and we saw, as it were, a vast sea of fire.” http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/ THE POPES AND FATIMA Theologians like Karl Rahner argued that Popes, by authoritatively fostering the Marian veneration in places like Fatima and Lourdes, motivate the faithful into an acceptance of divine faith [65] Popes Pius XII, Paul VI, John Paul II and Benedict XVI all voiced their acceptance of the supernatural origin of the Fátima events in unusually clear and strong terms. The Vatican responded with granting indulgences and permitting special Liturgies of the Mass to be celebrated in Fatima.[15]
Popes and Fátima http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1tima#Official_position_of_the_Catholic_Church


901 posted on 01/24/2012 10:22:06 AM PST by anglian
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To: CynicalBear

****It would be a lie to include those Old Testament saints with the New Testament saints which we are concerned with in this case.****

Where in Scripture does it say that God differentiates between NT saints and OT saints?

See, you can’t have it both ways.

Either one believes what is in Scripture and discounts what is not, or one accepts that there are things we can know based on Scripture even if it is not explicitly said there.

For example, Scripture does not say those who rose from their graves were taken into heaven with Christ.

But, knowing what we know from Scripture that is a reasonable conclusion.


907 posted on 01/24/2012 5:27:20 PM PST by Jvette
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