[D-fendr]

thanks much for your posts on this thread.

Why, because I’m not just swallowing whole all that you profess to be the truth?

The basic issues are not new here. It's like witnessing a rehash of the first 400 years of the Church - only on a, forgive me, third-grade level.

The poles of works/faith, free will/predestination, original sin/salvation, scripture/tradition, action/contemplation are far from new. Nor is Nestorianism, Modalism, Monarchism...

Our protestant friends seem unacquainted with these, where the various poles fall at their ends, the errors that arise under examination, the work and manner of resolution of these errors long ago into what is the one, holy, universal and apostolic Church teaching.

When our protestant friends revisit these issues and take an old road, they appear to to think it is a new and direct revelation (because they discovered it!), not knowing it is an old trail, traveled a while and then abandoned by the Church for the good reason that it ends in obvious error.

All Catholics need to do is demonstrate what the Church's examination, guided by the Holy Spirit, revealed a thousand or more years ago.

[Jvette]

****The basic issues are not new here.****

I think of them more like fall back positions.

Every once in a while a discussion goes in a new direction that is interesting, but for the most part, it’s all a parroting of the same old, same old.

[MarkBsnr]

When our protestant friends revisit these issues and take an old road, they appear to to think it is a new and direct revelation (because they discovered it!), not knowing it is an old trail, traveled a while and then abandoned by the Church for the good reason that it ends in obvious error.

New twists on old errors.

[Lera]

Our protestant friends seem unacquainted with these, where the various poles fall at their ends, the errors that arise under examination, the work and manner of resolution of these errors long ago into what is the one, holy, universal and apostolic Church teaching.
When our protestant friends revisit these issues and take an old road, they appear to to think it is a new and direct revelation (because they discovered it!), not knowing it is an old trail, traveled a while and then abandoned by the Church for the good reason that it ends in obvious error.
All Catholics need to do is demonstrate what the Church's examination, guided by the Holy Spirit, revealed a thousand or more years ago.


Our Catholic friends fail to realize that after they took it upon themselves to declare what was error in the church when they married the world ... after they decided to take into their own hands and judge and condemn those Christians who did not follow them ... that THOSE Christians they killed were replaced by other people ... That the VOID they created became the SWORD that chased them out of the middle east and is still the SAME SWORD that is currently terrorizing what currently still remains their. They fail to realize that they brought this curse upon their own heads by how they treated others including the Jews... they fail to realize that to this day they continue these curses and that it is coming back on their own heads.... soon their will not be a place for them to run.