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Pope says uniting Christianity requires conversion
cna ^ | January 18, 2012 | David Kerr

Posted on 01/18/2012 3:19:15 PM PST by NYer

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To: editor-surveyor

Maybe you might like BBQ sauce. You might need it for your soul.


221 posted on 01/18/2012 9:54:06 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor

I believe that the Catholic Church was founded by Christ. The apostles were the first Bishops and priests.

Your loss.....


222 posted on 01/18/2012 9:56:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Catholic Church was founded by pharisees, over 300 years after Christ ascended.

>>Prove it! Just more uneducated trash written by professional bigots.

The next thing we are going to see is how the Jews are trying to take over the world.

Or about black helicopters.


223 posted on 01/18/2012 9:58:27 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor; Salvation
The Catholic Church was founded by pharisees, over 300 years after Christ ascended.

Where do you get this history; source? I'm trying to help you out here, FRiend.

You keep on swinging, but it's just air if it's only you coming up with this.

So, help yourself out, appeal to some authority here; cite somebody, anybody, who supports the view that the NT Church was Baptist or Methodist or Anything But Catholic. A link will do...

224 posted on 01/18/2012 9:59:11 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Grunthor
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Thats not what I meant. We are his instruments is what I was getting at.

225 posted on 01/18/2012 10:00:21 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: rzman21

Light gray choppers can operate during the day...


226 posted on 01/18/2012 10:03:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: D-fendr

I just can’t take people like this seriously. They aren’t interested in dialog or in learning anything.


227 posted on 01/18/2012 10:05:06 PM PST by rzman21
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To: D-fendr

The NT church was Jews that followed Christ for the first 35 years or so. The early church was indiscernable from any other synogogue for two centuries.


228 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

4 When arguing with fools, don’t answer their foolish arguments, or you will become as foolish as they are. 5 When arguing with fools, be sure to answer their foolish arguments, or they will become wise in their own estimation.

Proverbs 26:4


229 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:11 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

OK, I’ll stop answering your foolish arguments then.


230 posted on 01/18/2012 10:07:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

The NT church was Jews that followed Christ for the first 35 years or so. The early church was indiscernable from any other synogogue for two centuries

>>Where is your evidence? Prove it using Catholic scholars.

http://books.google.com


231 posted on 01/18/2012 10:09:07 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor

OK, I’ll stop answering your foolish arguments then.

>>You have lost the debate. Congratulations!


232 posted on 01/18/2012 10:10:40 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor; rzman21
The early church was indiscernable from any other for two centuries.

Source for that, FRiend? We really need some authoritative back up for this. I posted Justin Martyr on the Church earlier, that was within the first 200 years. And there's a lot more.

So we need sourcing for the synagogue theory to help you out here.

Also need some sourcing for after 233 AD. Need to support that the Church was Baptist or whatever in 250.

It's not just you saying this, is it? Let's get out there and support these arguments!

233 posted on 01/18/2012 10:15:25 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: editor-surveyor; rzman21
Oops, misquoted you there, left out a word. Should be:

The early church was indiscernable from any other synogogue for two centuries.

234 posted on 01/18/2012 10:18:01 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: narses

Amen!


235 posted on 01/18/2012 10:24:12 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: D-fendr

Small-minded bigots base their prejudices on fear, not on facts.

People like us are the worst of them all because we used to be Protestant “Bible-believers”.

If facts mattered, they would consider all of the facts. But maybe they are just afraid of what they would find at the other end of the tunnel.


236 posted on 01/18/2012 10:27:02 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Nope, no dialogue, brick wall. All attack against straw men, no defense.

But it doesn’t take long to shine a light and see there’s nothing there anyway.


237 posted on 01/18/2012 10:29:41 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: editor-surveyor; D-fendr; narses; Salvation; Campion; BenKenobi; Rashputin

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law. For they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: 11 Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.

Titus 3:9-11


238 posted on 01/18/2012 10:30:21 PM PST by rzman21
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To: D-fendr

Ignore the heretic.


239 posted on 01/18/2012 10:31:27 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor
“faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

This was written by Apostles. It is about the Authority of the priest reading it to the Church. The authority handed down by the Apostles.

If you ever want to enlighten yourself from stereotypes go to ordination of a priest in the Church. When you go the Priests of every stature lay hands on each other. It is explained this has been for two thousand years. Those hands go back to the apostles from older priest to younger priest then to the next generation.

Acts 6

The Choosing of the Seven

1 In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews[a] among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food.

2 So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, “It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables.

3 Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them 4 and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word.” 5 This proposal pleased the whole group. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit; also Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism. 6 They presented these men to the Apostles, who prayed and Laid Their Hands on them.

7 So the word of God spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem increased rapidly, and a large number of priests became obedient to the faith.

ACTS: 6 They presented these men to the Apostles, "who prayed and Laid Their Hands on them".....And a large number of PRIESTS became obedient to the faith.

240 posted on 01/18/2012 10:35:46 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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