Posted on 01/18/2012 3:19:15 PM PST by NYer
A minister preaches the gospel of your salvation. It’s the gospel that saves you. Not the minister. My neighbor can tell me the gospel of my salvation. And it would be the gospel that saved me, not my neighbor. It’s believing the gospel, not the person who may have told you. Does the Pope preach the gospel of your salvation?
>> “I guess your minister doesn’t save souls then.” <<
If he could, why would we need Christ?
A minister preaches the gospel of your salvation. It’s the gospel that saves you. Not the minister. My neighbor can tell me the gospel of my salvation. And it would be the gospel that saved me, not my neighbor. It’s believing the gospel, not the person who may have told you.
>>You made my point for me regarding the Pope.
What point? That the Pope “saves souls”? I think you need to re-read your post. And does the Pope preach the gospel of your salvation?
When has any pope ever preached the gospel?
When has any pope ever preached the gospel?
>>They have since 60 A.D. But why should he preach Gnosticism like you do?
What point? That the Pope “saves souls”? I think you need to re-read your post. And does the Pope preach the gospel of your salvation?
>>Define “IS”.
We are cammanded by God’s word to condemn Roman Catholic practices.
The Apostle Paul spent his life condemning Roman Catholic practices.
IOW, you have no answer and must dissemble.
Matthew 25:31-46
King James Version (KJV)
31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
How do things look from over there on the left?
I agree. And hope that both the Pope and you will convert to real Christianity too. The only real Christianity is that practiced by the Bushy Wood Creek Christian Church of Bethanelbow. So please come to Bushy Wood and be fully baptised and become a real Christian.
/Scasism-off/
It sounds like you’ve made quite a few assertions. Time for you to back them with facts. Cold, hard, historical, objective facts. Ones that others can read for themselves, as opposed to the “global warming”-type of hoohah. IF you can. Otherwise, the phrase “whistling Dixie” comes to mind. Especially silly in a thread about Christian unity.
How do things look from over there on the left?
>>You tell me.
"And this food is called among us the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, This do in remembrance of Me, this is My body; and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, This is My blood; and gave it to them alone."
--c. 140, St. Justin Martyr, beheaded c.165, addressed to the Roman Emperor.
Can’t, you’re so far over there on the left that those of us here on the right have no idea what’s happening to you - looks like lotsa smoke.
Ol’ Justin was quoting the traditions of fallible men.
He would have done better to have quoted God’s word, “faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
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