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To: donmeaker

No Sir....

Christ said to Peter... Upon this rock you should shall build my church! What church do you think that was? All the other Christian were not around at that time so that leaves only 1.

Christ conformed Peter as the first Pope of the Catholic Church and there has been a Pope ever since that time...

Its right there in the Bible for all to read...


47 posted on 01/14/2012 9:23:26 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer

“confirmed” sorry for the typo


48 posted on 01/14/2012 9:24:06 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer

It is your, (and proper RC} interpretation that the rock was the RC church. A protestant interpretation is that metaphorical rock was the statement of belief.

I can’t tell from the text. I am glad that you think that you can.

“I doubt, therefore, I think.” Descartes


52 posted on 01/14/2012 9:27:49 PM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: neverbluffer

“on this rock you shall build my church” seems to differentiate between the rock and the church built upon it.


54 posted on 01/14/2012 9:29:37 PM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: neverbluffer
>>Christ said to Peter... Upon this rock you should shall build my church!<<

The Rock the church is built on is Christ. Besides, later in that same conversation Jesus called Peter Satan.

62 posted on 01/14/2012 9:37:48 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: neverbluffer

Mat 16:18
(18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The disagreement between Catholics and Protestants hinges upon the meaning of the rock.

Protestants understand the rock upon which Christ builds his church to be faith.

Catholics identify the rock as being Peter.

Pope Gregory I, circa 600AD was recognized later as the first Pope, even though he denied the title.

Most doctrines up through 600AD are shared by nearly all believers in Christ. The Reformation (German, Austrian, Dutch, English) generally built upon these doctrines with better doctrines of soteriology. Later Modern church developments better studied the doctrines of eschatology, because it is based upon sound doctrinal studies from previous doctrinal development. Even the Catholic Church didn’t agree on the doctrine of the Trinity until about 350-400AD.


65 posted on 01/14/2012 9:42:14 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: neverbluffer
Christ said to Peter... Upon this rock you should shall build my church! What church do you think that was? All the other Christian were not around at that time so that leaves only 1. Christ conformed Peter as the first Pope of the Catholic Church and there has been a Pope ever since that time... Its right there in the Bible for all to read...

That's YOUR and the Catholic Church's interpretation. The CORRECT interpretation is that Jesus was speaking about the TRUTH, which Peter spoke, as being the rock.

I take much solace in the fact that religion is a man-made thing. As such, Christ didn't make a 'religion' ...

366 posted on 01/16/2012 6:06:44 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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