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ConservativeMind wrote:
I would like any Catholics to show, in their own translation of the Bible, where Mary or any of their “saints” can be prayed to.
Paul's letters clarify how the Apostolic Church under the influence of the Holy Spirit spoke of believers as "saints," whether living or dead.

Paul asked the saints to pray for him and to imitate him.

Faithful people in the Post-Apostolic Church in the Apostles Creed defined the confessional response to faith in their creed: "We believe in the communion of saints."

Through Baptism we pass "from death to life; death no longer has dominion over us." Christians must believe that there is no real distinction between the believer in human life and after human life. Saints, living or dead, are indistinguishable before God.

If we can pray for and with saints in this life, we can pray for and with those saints after human life.

And as Paul asked saints to imitate him as he imitates Christ, the Church encourages Catholic Christians to imitate the holiness of the saints as they imitated the holiness of Christ and the Father.

As a hem of a garment, the shadows of saints, and clothes of the saints were used devotionally in the Apostolic Church, so relics and images of the saints are devotionally encouraged by the Church today.

First among saints by the fullness of grace which was hers is the Mother of Jesus, Mary.

From http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap070000.htm

ConservativeMind wrote:
I believe we are hearing the sound of crickets now...

71 posted on 01/11/2012 8:33:51 PM PST by narses
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To: narses

That is a lovely likeness of the catholic blasphemies WRT Mary.


75 posted on 01/11/2012 8:36:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: narses

Narses, there is NOWHERE in Scripture that supports the concept of dead Christians being prayed to or for them to be praying for Paul.

There is no Biblical support for relics or images of God or of His people to be used for “devotional” ‘encouragement’.

If so, post the Catholic’s own Bible verses here. Otherwise, you have no source worth squat.


1,486 posted on 01/15/2012 8:37:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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