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To: narses; lastchance; CynicalBear

Get in line. I’m still waiting to hear his judgement on whether the paintings are idols.

:)


694 posted on 01/12/2012 9:36:11 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; CynicalBear

It appears that some idols beget pederasts. Odd.


697 posted on 01/12/2012 9:39:08 PM PST by narses
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To: D-fendr

Thank you for being a ‘True Defender of the Faith.’ I’m being a wimp of the faith & avoiding the quarrel about ‘idols.’ But I’m willing to comment to you as you may be able to explain it better to Protestants.

First: All I know about Christianity comes from staying awake in Church & paying attention as I’m obligated to do. Also, let me quote the Bible: Proverbs 20: 3 ‘Keeping away from strife is an honor for a man. But any fool will quarrel.’ You defend the faith withOUT quarreling.

I’ve listened to the Great Preacher in the Southern Baptist Church that is able to speak to all Christians,> The Great Reverend Billy Graham. He describes how he, as a young man, turned his life over to Jesus Christ. Billy Graham said he attended a Revival meeting one night & his heart was touched by Jesus Christ.

Billy Graham came home to his parents house, went up to his bedroom, and KNELT at his bedside. Billy Graham said while knelling at the side of his bed, he looked out his window to the trees across the field in the moonlight & and then up at the moon shining through his window. While knelling, the Great Billy Graham prayed to God & turned his life over to Jesus.

The description of how Billy Graham received his ‘call’ from God also describes why Catholics knell in front of statutes & paintings in a Catholic Church. Catholics know that it is just a place to knell when worshiping the True God in Heaven.

Ministers in Protestant churches say things like: ‘We rest in Jesus; We rest from our works when we totally rest in Jesus.’ YET, we Catholics know that Billy Graham did >NOT think his bed was Jesus. & We know Billy Graham was >NOT worshiping his BED as he knelt there. Why can’t Protestants listen to Billy Graham & understand it is possible to knell in front of something & still worship the True God in Heaven?

Billy Graham that night also looked at the ‘Trees’ when he prayed. (Some folks do worship trees.) Yet, from all of Billy Graham’s statements, we know Billy Graham does not worship trees. Why can’t Protestants listen to ministers like Billy Graham & understand that Catholics too can also look at something & be worshiping the True God in Heaven.

Billy Graham also looked at the Moon when he prayed to God. We know he does not think the Moon is God even though there really were Moon-worshippers in the world. What is going on with Protestants that they do NOT even listen to their own Great ministers explain how it is possible to look at something & still worship True God.

The whole ‘Idol’ business by Protestants about the Catholic Church seems contrived & just basically hatred. It’s possible to read the description of the Ark of the Covenant & the Angels on it. The truly Great Art works of Western Civilization have been part of the Heritage of the Roman Catholic Church & truly a gift to the entire world.

Somethings are just a mystery to me & maybe you can explain it to Protestants. Bless you for being a defender of the True Faith. Maybe, we should tell Protestants to listen to Billy Graham & how it is possible to knell next to something (like a bed) & not worship it.


718 posted on 01/12/2012 11:40:29 PM PST by gghd
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