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To: CynicalBear

So the fact that Christ Himself is the First Born Image through the Incarnation is to you the same as a stone carving of a man or bird which is adored and worshiped as a deity? For that is what those artists are depicting that God became flesh. If the image is meant to show the true God it is not idolatry. We can show images of Jesus because Jesus Incarnate is no false god but truly eternal God before all ages.

As to responding to your contention that Leonardo’s “Last Supper” is what lead to the horrible sin of pederasty I have never come across such blatant and outright example of logic fail in all my born days.


690 posted on 01/12/2012 9:29:00 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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lastchance said to CynicalBear:
As to responding to your contention that Leonardo’s “Last Supper” is what lead to the horrible sin of pederasty I have never come across such blatant and outright example of logic fail in all my born days.
A good point.

So CynicalBear, you claim that celebrating Christmas, as all Catholics do is pagan, you appear to claim that having a Crucifix is IDOL worship (although you have carefully avoided answering directly at least FOUR times on this thread if that really is what you believe) and now you appear to claim that religious art is the proximate cause of clerical pederasty. Is that right?

693 posted on 01/12/2012 9:34:06 PM PST by narses
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To: lastchance; CynicalBear

How do you know what Jesus looked like in order to paint an “image” of Him? How do you know what Mary looked like in order to claim she is seen in an “apparition”? You are not showing “images of Jesus or Mary”. You have no idea what they looked like. You are creating man’s image and calling that image “Christ” or “Mary”, or whoever it is you decide to venerate. When I say “you” I am talking plural, as in “you”, the RCC.


696 posted on 01/12/2012 9:37:02 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: lastchance
>> If the image is meant to show the true God it is not idolatry.<<

Call it what you want but God still condemns it.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

749 posted on 01/13/2012 7:19:25 AM PST by CynicalBear
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