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To: Al Hitan; BlueDragon; ConservativeMind; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...
'm being held to the standard that it has to be shown from Scripture. Is it too much to bear that the same standard be applied to Sola Scriptura?

2 Timothy 3:14-17 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it 15 and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Now, from Scripture show us where tradition is to tradition is to be held to the same level of authority as the living, God breathed, inspired Word of God. Or that tradition IS God breathed, inspired, and living.

And tradition is not acceptable. Catholics reject what they call *self-declared* salvation. Well I reject self-declared tradition that says tradition is equal in authority to Scripture. How convenient is that for the Catholic church. *See, tradition is of equal authority to Scripture because our tradition says so*.

Really????

It's beyond absurd.

1,613 posted on 01/18/2012 8:09:28 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; Al Hitan
>> Now, from Scripture show us where tradition is to tradition is to be held to the same level of authority as the living, God breathed, inspired Word of God.<<

Jesus did not talk in glowing tribute to tradition.

Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

1,615 posted on 01/18/2012 8:30:17 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for...

Yes, it is profitable for ... Nowhere does it say anything about Sola Scriptura.

Well I reject self-declared tradition that says tradition is equal in authority to Scripture. How convenient is that for the Catholic church. *See, tradition is of equal authority to Scripture because our tradition says so*.

Sola Scriptura is a tradition. What is in your Bible is a Tradition.

Really????

No, not really.

It's beyond absurd.

Not surprising since it is just something you claimed which has nothing to do with reality.

1,618 posted on 01/18/2012 8:44:16 AM PST by Al Hitan (Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.)
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To: metmom
Interesting that Scripture's use of the term “complete”. It indicates that nothing is lacking, perfectly equipped.

Thus while every word the apostles or Jesus spoke is not recorded what we do have is sufficient to thoroughly train the man of of God for every good work.

Someone might be proud of their schooling and have knowledge (gnosis) but it is not the epignosis that Paul spoke of. They are not equipped for every good work.

1,662 posted on 01/18/2012 11:40:25 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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