[CynicalBear]

>>now, i am sure we also agree the true Church is visible,<<

No, actually we wouldn’t agree on that.

where was the true Church in 431ad and can you name just two Christians alive that year?<<

Some of them were probably attending the apostate RCC and some of them meeting privately.

Only those invited by Christ and indwelled by the Holy Spirit are true Christians, and these are the Church exclusively. This group can be said to be invisible, because only God can know who they are with certainty. They are marked by the invisible Spirit of God. [http://www.versebyverseministry.org/resource_library/questions_and_answers/the_visible_vs._invisible_church/]

[MarkBsnr]

>>now, i am sure we also agree the true Church is visible,<<

No, actually we wouldn’t agree on that.

where was the true Church in 431ad and can you name just two Christians alive that year?<<

Some of them were probably attending the apostate RCC and some of them meeting privately.

Only those invited by Christ and indwelled by the Holy Spirit are true Christians, and these are the Church exclusively. This group can be said to be invisible, because only God can know who they are with certainty. They are marked by the invisible Spirit of God. [http://www.versebyverseministry.org/resource_library/questions_and_answers/the_visible_vs._invisible_church/]

Now that is one heck of a waffle. I suppose that you will not name names...

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

who did Paul write to in Rome if the Church was invisible?

who did Paul write to in Corinth if the Church was invisible?

could it be your “version” of the church truly was invisible ( meaning it didn’t exist ) until the 16th century?