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To: MarkBsnr
..i..don't..know..what you're..grasping..for :)

I will tell you this, not ALL the signs of the "day of the Lord" appeared at Pentecost. There were the "signs in the earth beneath" but not "wonders in the heaven above." There were the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, the tongues, and visions, and prophesying, but NOT the "'blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke,". Nor was the "sun turned into darkness and the moon into blood." Acts 2:17-20. Why? Because Israel was given the chance at Pentecost to turn to Christ and accept Him as Messiah. But the nation, as a whole did not. Why didn't God pour out His wrath on the nation at that point? The beginning of the propechy of Joel concerning the Last Days happened..the completion of his prophecy did not. Why not?

1,389 posted on 01/15/2012 9:16:13 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice
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The position of the typical antiCatholic rests in part upon the repudiation of Peter as the leader of Christianity after Pentecost, and in the embracing of a distorted Paulian version of Christianity in contrast to Petrine Christianity.

In spite of the Protestant position of Paul - Gentile and Peter - Jew, let us look at the facts. Paul spent most of his ministry with the Jews (Acts and his Epistles bear that out). Peter spent most of his time with the Gentiles (Scripture and various Christian writings of the era bear that out). Peter converted the first Gentile. He raised the first person from the dead (after Christ). His shadow was enough to heal people.

He also led Christianity in Rome. His crucifixion was upside down so that he would not equal Christ in any way. Peter is portrayed by Protestants as a bumbling, stumbling fool, no match for the articulate and educated Paul. Yet Paul himself had an inferiority complex a mile wide and complained his whole life about not being accepted as much as the Apostles that Jesus spent three years with.

Now do you see that philosophy mirrored in the juxtaposition of your two paragraphs?

1,397 posted on 01/15/2012 9:32:56 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: smvoice

Why didn’t God pour out His wrath on the nation at that point?

What happened to Jerusalem in 70AD?

And what has NOT happened in Jerusalem since that time?

And what happened to the nation Israel since?

Jerusalem, Israel, they are a microcosm of first, the promises and covenants of God with His people. Second, we can look to them to see what is in store for us if we, like they, reject God’s covenant.


1,530 posted on 01/16/2012 7:54:20 AM PST by Jvette
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