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To: MarkBsnr
do you think that He will bend to your will and any self declaration of salvation or non Judgement?

Judgment for sin was met at Calvary in the person of Jesus Christ...He said..."It is finished"...I believe He meant that.....also... It is written..."there is NOW no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus"...I believe this as well.

As for idols....Yes, if catholics are kneeling before a wooden figure made to look like mans idea of what she looked like then yes they are worshiping an idol....if they are praying to it, building shrines around it, parading it thru the streets, kissing it etc....yes then they are worshiping it...Just as I stated.

1,052 posted on 01/13/2012 6:43:55 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
Judgment for sin was met at Calvary in the person of Jesus Christ...He said..."It is finished"...I believe He meant that.....also... It is written..."there is NOW no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus"...I believe this as well.

Believe all you like; this is not a Christian belief. Judgement was not made at Calvary. This is Unitarianism or Calvinism. Atonement was. This is Christianity. The ability of man to be saved was the effect of Calvary. The guarantee of any individual man was not. Both Jesus and Paul keep referring to the 'many'. If you are of the 'many', then that will be determined by your own particular Judgement.

As for idols....Yes, if catholics are kneeling before a wooden figure made to look like mans idea of what she looked like then yes they are worshiping an idol....if they are praying to it, building shrines around it, parading it thru the streets, kissing it etc....yes then they are worshiping it...Just as I stated.

Plaster ones are okay, then?

You stated that Catholics worship idols. Kneeling before someone is idolatry? Better not get knighted by the Queen of England then. You will kneel before her. Is that idolatry?

Praying for someone to pray for you is idolatry? Better take that up with St. Paul and St. John.

Building shrines and parading through streets is idolatry? No doubt the early Church martyrs and Fathers were idolators and therefore worthy of scorn. By the way, how do you sleep at night, knowing that your Scripture was written and chosen by idolators? How does your understanding of God jive with the theology of the idolators?

Answer: variously, depending on your mood, the stage of the moon, the level of the stock market, and the arrangement of YOPIOS breakfast cereal in your bowl this morning.

1,190 posted on 01/14/2012 5:29:55 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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