Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
Mary: Mother of God?
This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."
This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.
Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?
The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.
Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."
The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".
This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."
It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.
Strange. Works for me. http://www.the-pope.com/wvat2tec.html
Sorry. Infallible Magisterium. Or Assuredly Infallible Magisterium (AIM)
There's something to that Daniel as I've seen and been in those very churches. All the makeup is there but lacks the Spirit of Christ among. For more conservative individuals some of the Evangelical churches go to the other extremes...
"Division because of truth is better than unity without it or in error"....you said that right!
I was in an Evangelical Free church for sometime as the Pastors teachings were so rich...everybody drew closer to Christ and understood more about Him for that.....Wonderful to be among those of like hearts and minds seeking more of the Lord..... Several Pastors would sit in on his bible studies for he was always open to being challenged and wanted participation.....once you have rich teachings among those who have depth of impute of their own, all students of God's word, well you can hardly explain how electrical the atmosphere...questions, opinions, scriptures abound...and a real effort to seek the truth and understanding it. And it is rare I have seen this since.
Yes, judgment has begun at the house of God....while the worldly churches clamor for unity....the Lord appears to be separating the Sheep from the goats in a way.
I have understood the true church will eventually go underground...perhaps as the churches become more secularized we'll see more people meeting in homes. I went to one of these but was not impressed...in fact challenged the "leader" because he was more like a cult leader...I think he was looking of his own following. I've been living by faith for quite some time and not always in my comfort zone....you learn how it is rather than just peoples opinions when it comes to which churches are which....but yes, I suspect things are going to become uncertain for many who wouldn't imagine not having a church building to worship in.
Ok...got it...now to read...
I thought maybe...but am still getting accustomed to abbreviations...there are many on FR and not always as I think.
Until you can show us Sola Scriptura in the Bible, you should speak no further.
There is no “Pope” in the Bible
There is no "Trinity" in the Bible, either. There is no table of contents for your Bible specified in Scripture. But you still use a Bible.
I prefer to depend on what God says in his word..for he is dependable and wants us to know the truth....and he has not yet failed me.... Though man can offer a challenge with his imput...if it doesn’t square with the scriptures then it’s simply another “article”.
I prefer to depend on what God says in his word..for he is dependable and wants us to know the truth....and he has not yet failed me.... Though man can offer a challenge with his imput...if it doesn’t square with the scriptures then it’s simply another “article”.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Galatians 1:8-10)
A well documented book by Dr Cathy Burns reveals that Billy Graham removed the warnings concerning http://tinyurl.com/8xnmrvl
You are,sadly,spot on.I've seen this first hand here in Oz.The church I attended had the issue of homosexuality come up in a big way,Many meetings were held,conferences galore etc etc.One night a moderator came to our church to discuss the issue with a few of us who had concerns.When the meeting started we opened our Bibles and the first thing spoken by said moderator was "if this is going to turn into a bible study there is no point me being here".
It was then we realized that in spite of all the talk we were not of one accord after all.We were not of one mind.
As I've said here before,in the beginning I read the bible as an atheist and came to believe through that reading (and a very very good friend who took great delight in nudging me at every opportunity)so to come to a church meeting and see an almost open disdain for trying to inject the Word of God into our deliberations was mortifying.
I find myself more in accord with some believers here than I did with the people I sat next to in the pews.
I'm very thankfull for much of what's posted here.Much meat in due season!I'm chewing for all I'm worth.
God bless
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
MAkes one wonder about the membership that “many meetings” were even necessary over such a clear topic....just shows the condition of the church is not healthy to say the least...and likely loaded with the liberal mindset or it wouldn’t have become an issue needing conferences and meetings.
Glad you caught on to it.
My conversion was a result of beginning to read the Bible ....powerful words!
huh?...that link has some crude/bizarre writings in it.
I didn’t look into the link. I came across it by searching for a copy of the Halley’s Bible Handbook. I go have a look.
Ok....I generally look at other articles or “about us” on sites linked. But the scripture given was spot on of course!
That is a very revealing example of private interpretation, or "wresting," while ostensibly being opposed to such. A clarification indeed.
Well, the early church faced persecution often, and the Roman gov. makes ours seems rather moral by comparison. Nero had incest with his mom, killed his wife, castrated a boy and married him. And the liberals are still trying to blame the Christians for the fall of Rome. But you do not read much about the political circumstances surrounding the church in the Scriptures, because their affections were to be on things above, and their security in Christ.
“For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. “ (Hebrews 10:34)
We are seeing Romans 1 progressively taking place. You might be helped by these:
http://homosexvsthebible.wikia.com/wiki/Romans_1
http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html
http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html
My wife does occasionally lurk. I showed her the entry. I mean it; she is a better (hu)man than I am, Gunga Din.
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