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Mary: Mother of God?
What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: caww

Strange. Works for me. http://www.the-pope.com/wvat2tec.html


1,501 posted on 01/15/2012 10:03:44 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww

Sorry. Infallible Magisterium. Or Assuredly Infallible Magisterium (AIM)


1,502 posted on 01/15/2012 10:06:07 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: daniel1212
IOW, you still strongly believe that it's just fine for folks to deny what is clearly written in Scripture, call Christ a liar, and and slander every Catholic now alive and who has ever lived, as long as they claim to be personally infallible. Thanks for the clarification.
1,503 posted on 01/15/2012 10:25:33 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: daniel1212
The reason liberal churches do not see splits, unless something really radical takes place, is because they see so little to stand for in the first place. Or their particular church is like a god; their real source of security and ultimate object of affection.

There's something to that Daniel as I've seen and been in those very churches. All the makeup is there but lacks the Spirit of Christ among. For more conservative individuals some of the Evangelical churches go to the other extremes...

"Division because of truth is better than unity without it or in error"....you said that right!

I was in an Evangelical Free church for sometime as the Pastors teachings were so rich...everybody drew closer to Christ and understood more about Him for that.....Wonderful to be among those of like hearts and minds seeking more of the Lord..... Several Pastors would sit in on his bible studies for he was always open to being challenged and wanted participation.....once you have rich teachings among those who have depth of impute of their own, all students of God's word, well you can hardly explain how electrical the atmosphere...questions, opinions, scriptures abound...and a real effort to seek the truth and understanding it. And it is rare I have seen this since.

Yes, judgment has begun at the house of God....while the worldly churches clamor for unity....the Lord appears to be separating the Sheep from the goats in a way.

I have understood the true church will eventually go underground...perhaps as the churches become more secularized we'll see more people meeting in homes. I went to one of these but was not impressed...in fact challenged the "leader" because he was more like a cult leader...I think he was looking of his own following. I've been living by faith for quite some time and not always in my comfort zone....you learn how it is rather than just peoples opinions when it comes to which churches are which....but yes, I suspect things are going to become uncertain for many who wouldn't imagine not having a church building to worship in.

1,504 posted on 01/15/2012 10:28:56 PM PST by caww
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To: daniel1212

Ok...got it...now to read...


1,505 posted on 01/15/2012 10:31:48 PM PST by caww
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To: daniel1212

I thought maybe...but am still getting accustomed to abbreviations...there are many on FR and not always as I think.


1,506 posted on 01/15/2012 10:34:34 PM PST by caww
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To: ConservativeMind
I’d like to have you show where the Pope was ever mentioned in the Catholic’s own version of the Bible. If you can, then I’ll speak further.

Until you can show us Sola Scriptura in the Bible, you should speak no further.

There is no “Pope” in the Bible

There is no "Trinity" in the Bible, either. There is no table of contents for your Bible specified in Scripture. But you still use a Bible.

1,507 posted on 01/15/2012 10:51:06 PM PST by Al Hitan (Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.)
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To: aruanan

I prefer to depend on what God says in his word..for he is dependable and wants us to know the truth....and he has not yet failed me.... Though man can offer a challenge with his imput...if it doesn’t square with the scriptures then it’s simply another “article”.


1,508 posted on 01/15/2012 11:04:42 PM PST by caww
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To: aruanan

I prefer to depend on what God says in his word..for he is dependable and wants us to know the truth....and he has not yet failed me.... Though man can offer a challenge with his imput...if it doesn’t square with the scriptures then it’s simply another “article”.


1,509 posted on 01/15/2012 11:05:04 PM PST by caww
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But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Galatians 1:8-10)

A well documented book by Dr Cathy Burns reveals that Billy Graham removed the warnings concerning http://tinyurl.com/8xnmrvl


1,510 posted on 01/15/2012 11:21:02 PM PST by anglian
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To: daniel1212; caww
"The reason liberal churches do not see splits, unless something really radical takes place, is because they see so little to stand for in the first place. Or their particular church is like a god; their real source of security and ultimate object of affection."

You are,sadly,spot on.I've seen this first hand here in Oz.The church I attended had the issue of homosexuality come up in a big way,Many meetings were held,conferences galore etc etc.One night a moderator came to our church to discuss the issue with a few of us who had concerns.When the meeting started we opened our Bibles and the first thing spoken by said moderator was "if this is going to turn into a bible study there is no point me being here".

It was then we realized that in spite of all the talk we were not of one accord after all.We were not of one mind.

As I've said here before,in the beginning I read the bible as an atheist and came to believe through that reading (and a very very good friend who took great delight in nudging me at every opportunity)so to come to a church meeting and see an almost open disdain for trying to inject the Word of God into our deliberations was mortifying.

I find myself more in accord with some believers here than I did with the people I sat next to in the pews.

I'm very thankfull for much of what's posted here.Much meat in due season!I'm chewing for all I'm worth.

God bless

1,511 posted on 01/16/2012 12:27:45 AM PST by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


1,512 posted on 01/16/2012 2:18:05 AM PST by narses
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To: mitch5501

MAkes one wonder about the membership that “many meetings” were even necessary over such a clear topic....just shows the condition of the church is not healthy to say the least...and likely loaded with the liberal mindset or it wouldn’t have become an issue needing conferences and meetings.

Glad you caught on to it.

My conversion was a result of beginning to read the Bible ....powerful words!


1,513 posted on 01/16/2012 4:13:02 AM PST by caww
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To: anglian

huh?...that link has some crude/bizarre writings in it.


1,514 posted on 01/16/2012 4:17:26 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

I didn’t look into the link. I came across it by searching for a copy of the Halley’s Bible Handbook. I go have a look.


1,515 posted on 01/16/2012 4:29:47 AM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

Ok....I generally look at other articles or “about us” on sites linked. But the scripture given was spot on of course!


1,516 posted on 01/16/2012 4:39:27 AM PST by caww
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To: Rashputin
IOW, you still strongly believe that it's just fine for folks to deny what is clearly written in Scripture, call Christ a liar, and and slander every Catholic now alive and who has ever lived, as long as they claim to be personally infallible. Thanks for the clarification.

That is a very revealing example of private interpretation, or "wresting," while ostensibly being opposed to such. A clarification indeed.

1,517 posted on 01/16/2012 4:41:10 AM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww

Well, the early church faced persecution often, and the Roman gov. makes ours seems rather moral by comparison. Nero had incest with his mom, killed his wife, castrated a boy and married him. And the liberals are still trying to blame the Christians for the fall of Rome. But you do not read much about the political circumstances surrounding the church in the Scriptures, because their affections were to be on things above, and their security in Christ.

“For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. “ (Hebrews 10:34)


1,518 posted on 01/16/2012 4:49:28 AM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: mitch5501

We are seeing Romans 1 progressively taking place. You might be helped by these:

http://homosexvsthebible.wikia.com/wiki/Romans_1

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html


1,519 posted on 01/16/2012 4:57:59 AM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww

My wife does occasionally lurk. I showed her the entry. I mean it; she is a better (hu)man than I am, Gunga Din.


1,520 posted on 01/16/2012 6:46:35 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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