Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
Mary: Mother of God?
This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."
This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.
Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?
The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.
Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."
The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".
This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."
It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.
The facts of scripture are one thing. Your convoluted pontifications on them are another. Just don't confuse the two.
I've already been programmed by the CC....
Crown and coke may be your thing but not mine.
And which are seeing the greatest loss of members.
I understand the reason it is appealing, but upon deeper analysis it still leaves a problem it is presented as solving, with the limited scope and perspicuity of the IM being a factor.
There is no Biblical support for you to “pray to me”. That, in fact, is heresy and it is heresy for me to accept it in any form.
You can ask me to pray for you, but that is it.
Read your Bible!
Narses, there is NOWHERE in Scripture that supports the concept of dead Christians being prayed to or for them to be praying for Paul.
There is no Biblical support for relics or images of God or of His people to be used for “devotional” ‘encouragement’.
If so, post the Catholic’s own Bible verses here. Otherwise, you have no source worth squat.
I’d like to have you show where the Pope was ever mentioned in the Catholic’s own version of the Bible. If you can, then I’ll speak further.
There is no “Pope” in the Bible, nor a reference in any form to one such as that. All the Apostles were equals and capable of mutual correction in Christ. So us otherwise from the Catholic Bible.
Nor does a prudent man slander and lie about the Mother of God and then counsel those who defend her to be gracious and prudent.
Where in the Catholic bible does it say that Mary is the mother of God? We only know it says she is the mother of Jesus, the physical form only.
Show me otherwise and I’ll comment further.
I wasn’t talking with you.
Nice try...not taking the bait.
I have family members in the south that just went thru a split in their church over liberal ideas festering there...... those who opposed left and began their own church...only to find their numbers had been infilitrated who outed the very pastor who had made the transition with them. It was an ugly affair all around. They left the church entirely then.
Just as with some catholics I think the Lord is doing some heavy sifting....and true believers won't necessarily be the ones remaining in the church they're accustomed to attending. Sad to see this happening and yet we are told this would come in the institutionalized churches.....the question remains for many where to go as there apppears to be less and less possibilites of finding a church that isn't liberal, or in the thros of.
Amen!
I Peter 2:5 "you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."
It would appear the Lord thought you were deserving of.....Nice.
But I did laugh outloud about the bikini part...funny!
The reason liberal churches do not see splits, unless something really radical takes place, is because they see so little to stand for in the first place. Or their particular church is like a god; their real source of security and ultimate object of affection.
Division because of Truth is better than unity without it or in error, though you have to determine what the line will be btwn tolerance and compromise.
What you describe is sad and damnable, but “the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? “ (1 Peter 4:17)
And part of the reason for splits is due to our superficiality and carnality. In these latter days of the latter days we needs to get ready to move out of our comfort zone Christianity and live by faith, even if it means meeting in the forest with no published schedule, and getting killed for witnessing about Christ and standing for righteousness, not advertising our church.
So what.
links saying page doesn’t exist...tried pope.com..without success.
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Vengeance is the Lord's. To try to take it for him, makes one both a murderer, and a thief.
One cannot covert dead bodies. But if one's aim is to let all here know about the raw hatred, and remind us all of the implicit threat of violence to those who dare resist the papists, then I must say you are doing a fine job.
The sneering, snarling hatreds have been re-invigorated in the last few months. One need not a particular gifting in the discernment of spirits, to recognize what spirits are behind the carnality.
IM factor?
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