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Mary: Mother of God?
What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Iscool
In other words: don't confuse me with facts of the scripture, I've already been programmed by the CC....

The facts of scripture are one thing. Your convoluted pontifications on them are another. Just don't confuse the two.

I've already been programmed by the CC....

Crown and coke may be your thing but not mine.

1,481 posted on 01/15/2012 8:13:16 PM PST by Al Hitan (Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.)
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To: caww

And which are seeing the greatest loss of members.


1,482 posted on 01/15/2012 8:19:37 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww
From a critical sedevacantist perspective: http://www.the-pope.com/wvat2tec.html
1,483 posted on 01/15/2012 8:21:40 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww

I understand the reason it is appealing, but upon deeper analysis it still leaves a problem it is presented as solving, with the limited scope and perspicuity of the IM being a factor.


1,484 posted on 01/15/2012 8:27:51 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: D-fendr

There is no Biblical support for you to “pray to me”. That, in fact, is heresy and it is heresy for me to accept it in any form.

You can ask me to pray for you, but that is it.

Read your Bible!


1,485 posted on 01/15/2012 8:33:03 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: narses

Narses, there is NOWHERE in Scripture that supports the concept of dead Christians being prayed to or for them to be praying for Paul.

There is no Biblical support for relics or images of God or of His people to be used for “devotional” ‘encouragement’.

If so, post the Catholic’s own Bible verses here. Otherwise, you have no source worth squat.


1,486 posted on 01/15/2012 8:37:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Al Hitan

I’d like to have you show where the Pope was ever mentioned in the Catholic’s own version of the Bible. If you can, then I’ll speak further.

There is no “Pope” in the Bible, nor a reference in any form to one such as that. All the Apostles were equals and capable of mutual correction in Christ. So us otherwise from the Catholic Bible.


1,487 posted on 01/15/2012 8:40:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: caww
" ... but a prudent man overlooks an insult."

Nor does a prudent man slander and lie about the Mother of God and then counsel those who defend her to be gracious and prudent.

1,488 posted on 01/15/2012 8:41:31 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Where in the Catholic bible does it say that Mary is the mother of God? We only know it says she is the mother of Jesus, the physical form only.

Show me otherwise and I’ll comment further.


1,489 posted on 01/15/2012 8:42:11 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Rashputin

I wasn’t talking with you.


1,490 posted on 01/15/2012 9:10:57 PM PST by caww
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Nice try...not taking the bait.


1,491 posted on 01/15/2012 9:17:21 PM PST by caww
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To: daniel1212
And which are seeing the greatest loss of members.

I have family members in the south that just went thru a split in their church over liberal ideas festering there...... those who opposed left and began their own church...only to find their numbers had been infilitrated who outed the very pastor who had made the transition with them. It was an ugly affair all around. They left the church entirely then.

Just as with some catholics I think the Lord is doing some heavy sifting....and true believers won't necessarily be the ones remaining in the church they're accustomed to attending. Sad to see this happening and yet we are told this would come in the institutionalized churches.....the question remains for many where to go as there apppears to be less and less possibilites of finding a church that isn't liberal, or in the thros of.

1,492 posted on 01/15/2012 9:28:03 PM PST by caww
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To: anglian
The church is not a literal or physical building, but it is a spiritual building made up of those who have been quickened (made alive) in Christ (Eph. 2:5). The word "church" as it is used in the New Testament always means "an assembly, a company of people gathered together for a certain purpose." The word "church" is the translation of the Greek word EKKLĒSIA which is really made up of two Greek words: 1) EK which means "out, out of " and 2) KLĒSIS which means "a calling" (from the verb KALEŌ which means "to call"). If we put these two meanings together we have "a calling out." Therefore the term "church" (EKKLĒSIA) means "an assembly of called-out ones, a called-out assembly." SPIRITUAL ROCK

Amen!

I Peter 2:5 "you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."

1,493 posted on 01/15/2012 9:45:56 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: MarkBsnr

It would appear the Lord thought you were deserving of.....Nice.

But I did laugh outloud about the bikini part...funny!


1,494 posted on 01/15/2012 9:48:21 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

The reason liberal churches do not see splits, unless something really radical takes place, is because they see so little to stand for in the first place. Or their particular church is like a god; their real source of security and ultimate object of affection.

Division because of Truth is better than unity without it or in error, though you have to determine what the line will be btwn tolerance and compromise.

What you describe is sad and damnable, but “the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? “ (1 Peter 4:17)

And part of the reason for splits is due to our superficiality and carnality. In these latter days of the latter days we needs to get ready to move out of our comfort zone Christianity and live by faith, even if it means meeting in the forest with no published schedule, and getting killed for witnessing about Christ and standing for righteousness, not advertising our church.


1,495 posted on 01/15/2012 9:49:27 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: caww

So what.


1,496 posted on 01/15/2012 9:54:52 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: daniel1212

links saying page doesn’t exist...tried pope.com..without success.


1,497 posted on 01/15/2012 9:57:47 PM PST by caww
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To: Rashputin

:)


1,498 posted on 01/15/2012 9:58:37 PM PST by caww
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To: MarkBsnr
At least they were opposed??? By killing them? Nowhere is the directive given to do that. Put the axe down. The damage that is done with that method is beyond comprehension.

Vengeance is the Lord's. To try to take it for him, makes one both a murderer, and a thief.

One cannot covert dead bodies. But if one's aim is to let all here know about the raw hatred, and remind us all of the implicit threat of violence to those who dare resist the papists, then I must say you are doing a fine job.

The sneering, snarling hatreds have been re-invigorated in the last few months. One need not a particular gifting in the discernment of spirits, to recognize what spirits are behind the carnality.

1,499 posted on 01/15/2012 10:00:45 PM PST by BlueDragon (on'a $10 horse an' a $40 saddle I'm going up the trail with them longhorn cattle c'm uh ty-yi-yipy-)
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To: daniel1212

IM factor?


1,500 posted on 01/15/2012 10:01:36 PM PST by caww
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