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What Romney is Facing From Some Evangelical Christians
The American Thinker ^ | 1/10/2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/10/2012 9:29:58 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman

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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Author is basically uninformed as to Mormonism and basically attempts to make the jump that only the knuckle-dragging imbeciles in snake handling churches are those who might object to Mitt's faith.

That being said, however, most Christians that I have spoken with more object to a man who embraced abortion, gay marriage, and other socially unaccepted stances for a "conservative" candidate. Of course, once Mitt determined that becoming President should be his next career move, disavowed his pro-abortion, pro-gay rights stances.

We definitely believe in epiphanies but Romney's is just too coincidental to accept.

21 posted on 01/10/2012 10:25:55 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: chesley

Utah and Idaho are certainly being better run than either Europe or the former Soviet Union!


22 posted on 01/10/2012 10:32:13 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

“Most mainstream protestant religions recognize the LDS as a Christian sect.”

Rick:
You are a liar! No serious Christian organizations recognize LDS as a Christian Sect.

Not the Catholics.
Not the Baptists.
Not the Lutherans.
Not the Methodists.

That right there constitutes 90% of Christians in the USA.

Who in the Hell are you talking about?


23 posted on 01/10/2012 10:35:01 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

BTW, the guy’s religion isn’t the issue. It’s his vapid response to any issue and inability to decide who he is at his core, as a man.

No, Romney’s problemo is he is either an Oklahoma Weathervane on any issue or as Ted Kennedy eloquently put it “Multiple Choice”.


24 posted on 01/10/2012 10:38:33 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
2 John 1:10-11

So we are forbidden to even greet Romney, but we can vote for him to make him our President?

Really?

I put to you that any Christian leader that says it’s ok for other Christians to support Romney, in his present condition, is a heretic and should be soundly condemned.


25 posted on 01/10/2012 10:41:13 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Most mainstream protestant religions recognize the LDS as a Christian sect

This astounding claim is without foundation. It is true that the more "liberal" denominations are more "accepting" of deviant theological beliefs. However, I know of no denomination which has formally accepted the LDS as a legitimate Christian church.

Mormonism has a long history of antipathy towards Christian churches and denominations, which have been called "an abomination" by Mormon founders. One can therefore understand the concerns of those who are suspicious regarding the "makeover" that the LDS church has been undergoing in the press and Mormon PR.

26 posted on 01/10/2012 10:47:07 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Most mainstream protestant religions recognize the LDS as a Christian sect

This astounding claim is without foundation. It is true that the more "liberal" denominations are more "accepting" of deviant theological beliefs. However, I know of no denomination which has formally accepted the LDS as a legitimate Christian church.

Mormonism has a long history of antipathy towards Christian churches and denominations, which have been called "an abomination" by Mormon founders. One can therefore understand the concerns of those who are suspicious regarding the "makeover" that the LDS church has been undergoing in the press and Mormon PR.

27 posted on 01/10/2012 10:49:01 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

I agree.


28 posted on 01/10/2012 10:57:05 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Dr. Thorne

The Republican establishment is certainly taking a big risk with Romney. They are potentially alienating a sizable portion of their voting bloc - the evangelical Christian vote. They are hoping that the indepedent vote will overcome those Christians who decide to stay out of the race. If America was like Massachussetts, their political impulses would be correct from a strict political point of view, but I do not believe that the Northeast is indicative of the rest of the country, nor even of the evangelical vote there.


29 posted on 01/10/2012 11:03:13 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Jedidah

Obama and his minions will not be able to make religion an issue because of his ties to Jeremigh Wright. On the other hand, neither will Romney make a big deal out of Wright because of his own Mormonism. It is interesting to me that in all three areas where Obama is most vulnerable - his bigoted pastor, healthcare and the green economy, Romney will not be able to take full advantage of any of them as because of his own involvement in global warming, healthcare, and then lastly - his Mormonism.


30 posted on 01/10/2012 11:08:59 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: RushingWater

[It’s going to be holy mormon undearwear 24X7 as soon as Romney is the nominee.]
You betcha. I have studied Mormonism in depth after having been run over by some of them in business and politics here in Las Vegas. The number of ‘crazy Mormon ideas’ that will be debated ENDLESSLY are just suffocating to Romney’s political future, even if he wins.

You think we had problems with Hussein Obama’s muslim past, wait till people start looking into Kolob and becoming a god with spirit wives. The elite GOP who want their business crony boy in power have no idea the number of problems Mormonism will cause. The debate over Bain is minor in comparison.


31 posted on 01/10/2012 11:16:27 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Utah and Idaho. Two fine states.

Which one is Romney running?


32 posted on 01/10/2012 11:25:46 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

Neither one of course. The tongue in cheek point was that much of Utah’s and Idaho’s politics is very Mormon.


33 posted on 01/10/2012 11:29:08 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: FastCoyote
The ceaseless mention of garments will be irritating, but wait until the press discover that Mormon men believe they can become gods equal to Jesus. That is their belief. Really. I cannot vote for this guy.
34 posted on 01/10/2012 11:32:20 AM PST by T bench ("God wills it." Urban II)
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To: FastCoyote
The ceaseless mention of garments will be irritating, but wait until the press discover that Mormon men believe they can become gods equal to Jesus. That is their belief. Really. I cannot vote for this guy.
35 posted on 01/10/2012 11:32:37 AM PST by T bench ("God wills it." Urban II)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

And the Mormons are fine people. It’s just that I believe their religion to be wrong, and not the way of salvation.

Of course, I also believe that about Muslimns, Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, jehovah’s Witnesses, and a lot of mainstream Protestants, among others.

Doesn’t mean I couldn’t vote for most of them, if their politics is right. Romney’s isn’t.


36 posted on 01/10/2012 11:33:08 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

I hear you.


37 posted on 01/10/2012 12:17:02 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: dragonblustar; tjd1454
Most mainstream protestant religions recognize the LDS as a Christian sect

This author flat out lied, none of them, nor the Catholic church, nor the Orthodox church recognizes Mormonism as Christian, and they do not accept Mormon Baptism as Christian.

38 posted on 01/10/2012 12:20:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: tjd1454
Most mainstream protestant religions recognize the LDS as a Christian sect

People need to post comments at that site and bury that incredible lie.

No churches think that Mormonism is Christian, and that includes the Catholic and Orthodox churches.

We are going to see a flood of this altering of reality and Christian truth if Romney is nominated.

The most common tactic is to separate "Evangelical" from Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox, and pretend that only a few "fundamentalists" don't accept Mormonism as Christian, we need Catholics to speak up when that happens, Pope John II pronounced on the subject, and rejected Mormon baptism as non-Christian. The Orthodox church openly uses the label "cult" when explaining that Mormons are not Christian.

39 posted on 01/10/2012 12:47:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman; ansel12; dragonblustar
There appears to be a concerted effort to present Mormonism as a legitimate Christian denomination. I was just searching Christian music videos on YouTube: on the top of each search page was one of those "...and I'm a Mormon" advertisements. These videos were not germaine to my search, yet there they were.

I am currently reading Irvin Stone's classic work on the settling of the American West, Men to Move My Mountains. The book discusses Joseph Smith's ambitious plans to found a Mormon empire that would stretch Westward to California. Smith was an autocrat who tolerated no dissension, and forced his people to accept polygamy. The book records the heart-wrenching devastation of Mormon women who saw their husbands turn their affections to their new young brides. Were it not for the rising up of righteous (Christian) indignation by the rest of the country, Mormons would be practicing polygamy today.

Those familiar with the bizarre world-view of Mormonism, with its evolving "Godhead" and promise of future divinity on another planet to faithful Mormons - and its relegation of Jesus to "Satan's brother" and a minor son of a god of this planet - are very understandably concerned about what a Mormon president would mean for the country.

It is worth mentioning that Romney is by no means a "jack Mormon" (non-practicing Mormon in name only). He is a bishop in the LDS church, and served as a "missionary" in his youth. Thus his commitment to Mormonism runs very deep.

Despite serious theological disagreements, I would consider voting for a Mormon who demonstrated genuine conservative, pro-family positions - over Obama, at least. However, in Romney's case, his active Mormonism combined with his liberal economic and anti-family positions as well as his shady history at Bain Capital mark him as a shameless opportunist who will do anything to secure the GOP nomination.

Finally, here's a question crying out for an answer: what percentage of Romney's campaign staff are Mormon, and how are Mormon groups and individuals aiding and abetting his campaign behind the scenes?

40 posted on 01/10/2012 12:53:48 PM PST by tjd1454
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