[little jeremiah]

I’m with Biggirl. I think it won’t be long now when sane and good people are shoved against the wall so much that change will come. Troubles, and change. I mean real change, for the better. As my tagline says.

[steve86]

Oh, I'm not saying there won't be pushback, but when I look at Fatima, Akita, the apocalyptic prophecies of Hildegard of Bingen, et. al., there isn't reason to be hugely optimistic (until the very end). And none of these hint at a second golden era for the "great country between the oceans". Quite the opposite. As a point of interest concerning one of our dearly loved departed FReepers, Judith Anne, one of her last comments was in Dr. Kopp's thread about Hildegard, in which she said:

To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Fascinating...I have a problem with apocalyptic prophecies in general, I’ll have to look more specifically at this one.

5 posted on Sun 18 Dec 2011 11:15:46 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)

[Biggirl]

As proof, if my memory is correct, late last year, on news reports, gun sales were very high, that does say something as well as send a warning signal.