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Yet, Chrysostom did not abandon the Catholic Church; and in fact, he argued strenuously that the sacraments conferred by such a bishop or his priests are still valid, so long as the outward signs of the sacrament are present. (Hang out on the Catholic threads, and you’ll read the Catholics protesting “he’s doing it wrong!” all the time!) That’s because it matters not what sins the priest has committed. He is ONLY a mediator; he does not make the sacrament sufficient or not.

So the same hands that molest little boys can consecrate a host to make it holy and serve communion to those little boys and their families and it's all OK because the personal holiness of the life of the priest doesn't have any effect on his ability to perform his priestly duties?

Why do I feel like throwing up?

Galatians 6:7-8 7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

310 posted on 01/09/2012 10:19:01 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“That’s because it matters not what sins the priest has committed. He is ONLY a mediator; he does not make the sacrament sufficient or not.”

The whole concept of “Ex opere operato” has no foundation in the scripture’s sacrficial system.

Heb. 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Jesus has always been “the Lamb slain” even in the Old Testament sacrficial system.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


311 posted on 01/09/2012 10:41:21 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: metmom
So the same hands that molest little boys can consecrate a host to make it holy and serve communion to those little boys and their families and it's all OK because the personal holiness of the life of the priest doesn't have any effect on his ability to perform his priestly duties?

That's what they're saying...they can overlook that and in fact it really doesn't matter to them.

Can you even imagine where they put there hands on those boys and then dare to stand before the sacrament table, lift the cup and place a waffer into someones mouth!..and catholics don't seem to mind or they'd be ousting these perverts asap....but they aren't....and that speaks volumes of how deplorable and disgusting the vatican and those who support them are.

312 posted on 01/09/2012 10:47:27 AM PST by caww
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To: metmom

>> So the same hands that molest little boys can consecrate a host to make it holy and serve communion to those little boys and their families and it’s all OK because the personal holiness of the life of the priest doesn’t have any effect on his ability to perform his priestly duties? <<

>> Why do I feel like throwing up? <<

No, it’s not all OK; it’s fanastically, greiviously evil. And it’s a stupifying, mind-boggling, jaw-dropping straw man AND non sequitur to suppose that it would be OK.

In that example, what happens is the priest goes straight to Hell to rot in agony for eternity, while the VICTIM, having validly received the Eucharist goes to Heaven IN SPITE OF the wickedness of the priest. How could divine justice be otherwise?


313 posted on 01/09/2012 11:03:41 AM PST by dangus
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To: metmom

But now let’s turn the tables on that:

Are YOU supposing that because the priest is a sicko, that the child ALSO is denied salvation? Because that’s the inverse of the position you are suggesting makes you feel like throwing up.


315 posted on 01/09/2012 11:06:44 AM PST by dangus
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To: metmom
Galatians 6:7-8 7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

AMEN!!

That’s because it matters not what sins the priest has committed. He is ONLY a mediator;

Well, he's a mediator for satan because God has HIS Mediator, JESUS, and there is ONLY ONE Mediator in His Kingdom. And those priests' filthy hands and minds while robbing and destroying these children's life attest to being satan's mediator.


327 posted on 01/09/2012 5:42:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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