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To: Colofornian
Well....If Mormon's believe that God the Father had intercourse with Mary there should be some reference where it says **exactly** that Please find a simple statement from Mormon writings that Mary was not a virgin after she conceived Jesus in a DNA-type of way.

Please none of the “implied” stuff!

What I see is what my **Christian** denomination teaches. God the Father is the **literal** father of Jesus. ( That means a DNA-type dad).

It think it is really a cheap jab in the kidneys to state that Mormons believe that God the Father had intercourse with Mary and then post citations that say NOTHING of the kind! What? Did they think that maybe some of us might be lazy and just not check the reference? What I did find was a lot of stuff that sound down right sensible to me ( even though it had nothing to do with Mary.)

Mormonism is weird. Any religion can be made to look weird. Gee! As a Christian I believe that Jesus rose from the dead. How weird is that? Huh?

But....What is more weird is the pathological fixation of the anti-Mormonism posters on Free Republic.

49 posted on 12/31/2011 11:23:16 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: wintertime; All
Please none of the “implied” stuff!

What implications? Let me repeat two of those citations -- two Lds "apostle" statements alone that leave no doubt:

Bruce McConkie: "Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547.)

ALL: Wintertime thinks that all of us were miraculously Supernaturally conceived & born of virgin moms, too!

Wintertime, stop making yourself a laughing stock and actually decipher what these plain words mean!

McConkie again: “We have spoke PLAINLY of our Lord’s CONCEPTION in the womb of Mary.

You do know, Wintertime, what a "conception in the womb" is, don't you? Do I have to explain this to you?

Picking up where I left off citing McConkie: I am the son of my father and the father of my sons. They are my sons because they were begotten by me, were conceived by their mother, and came forth from her womb to breathe the breath of mortal life, to dwell for a time and a season among other mortal men. And so it is with the Eternal Father and the mortal birth of the Eternal Son. The Father is a Father is a Father…And the Son is a Son is a Son…a literal, living offspring from an actual Father. God is the Father; Christ is the Son. The one begat the other. Mary provided the womb from which the Spirit Jehovah came forth, tabernacled in clay, as all men are, to dwell among his fellow spirits whose births were brought to pass in like manner. There is no need to spiritualize away the plain meaning of the scriptures. There is nothing figurative or hidden or beyond comprehension in our Lord’s coming into mortality. He is the Son of God in the SAME SENSE AND WAY THAT WE ARE THE SONS OF MORTAL FATHERS. It is that simple. Christ was born of Mary. He is the Son of God—the Only Begotten of the Father. (The Promised Messiah, pp. 467-468, 1978)

ALL: Wintertime thinks that we are conceived/begotten/birthed of our fathers in the "Same sense" that Jesus was of His Father.

Well. I guess that makes all of our moms "virgins" and nothing "supernatural" occurred. Hey, Wintertime???

65 posted on 12/31/2011 1:13:18 PM PST by Colofornian (Martyrs don't die in shootouts! Sacrificial lambs aren't armed! J. Smith fired 2 weapons as he died)
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