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To: rzman21; tjd1454; reaganaut
...the Mormon Church has been a fighter for family values for all Americans against gay rights, abortion, etc.

This requires a qualified response.

On the international level, there is one pro-family Lds group that has indeed at times weighed in on these matters. (Of course, they've also widely distributed a statement that we can become gods)

On the national level, your statement is false. The Lds church has had absolutely NO structured campaign to either oppose abortion or the homosexual agenda.

Regionally, the Mormon church DID weigh in significantly with resources. These were two propositions on the ballot in CA (years 2008 and 2000). These indeed were propositions designed to protect marriage. But regional action done in one state out of 50 a grand total of two times doesn't make the Mormon church to be pro-family crusaders in the public square!

Besides, if you want to count regional action, 'twas the Mormon church getting behind gay rights in Salt Lake City (treating sexual orientation as minority class status for companies with 100 employees or more; as well as forcing those renting to sanction homosexuality) that was the catalyst in that being passed a few years ago.

The Mormon church is a hierarchical church. Believe me, if they weighed in formally on these matters, you would know it. (That's how we knew the CA ballot propositions).

They haven't. In fact, the Lds church has turned against conservatism on matters of illegal aliens.

Name me one formal pro-life issue -- some battle in the public square -- they have weighed in on...go ahead...I'm waiting. Instead, they've invited Harry Reid on the BYU campus to speak to all the students & profs!

248 posted on 12/29/2011 8:44:43 AM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: Colofornian

They haven’t. In fact, the Lds church has turned against conservatism on matters of illegal aliens.
>>I’m a Catholic, so believe me when I hear stuff like this coming out of the bishops’ conference I cringe.

Human dignity is one thing, but obeying the law it quite another.


249 posted on 12/29/2011 8:59:32 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Colofornian
On the national level, your statement is false. The Lds church has had absolutely NO structured campaign to either oppose abortion or the homosexual agenda.

Very enlightening. Thanks for the information.

298 posted on 12/29/2011 4:15:04 PM PST by tjd1454
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