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To: tired&retired

re: “I may be wrong. I have found this to be the case many times in my search. What is true at one level of understanding is untrue at the next level.”

John 14

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Tired&retired, I keep quoting Scripture because you keep saying you want to know the Truth. I know you believe that truth is made up of many frames of reference, but in this you are mistaken. You want to know what God is like? Look at Jesus. You want to know who God is? Look at the person and work of Jesus.

All paths are not leading to the same destination. All religious beliefs do not lead to true enlightenment. I don’t want to argue with you about it as I really don’t think that would help, but I have tried to point you in the right direction - Jesus. He’s not just one of the religious celebrities.


223 posted on 12/26/2011 9:13:50 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

I am a Christian, and I know Jesus. Some call me a mystic, but they are wrong. Everything you are quoting is very accurate. However, there is also a different understanding. Consciousness expands as it increases in frequency. All the so called “gifts of the spirit” are normal attributes at that operational level of consciousness. The Bible is teaching us how to cleanse our souls and grow closer to God. I was only asking you to be able to put it in your own words.

I use Russian nesting dolls to graphically illustrate the consciousness expanding concept. We are the little doll in the middle and God is the outer doll. Jesus is the doll between us. You cannot reach God except through Jesus. True statement. As consciousness increases in frequency, so does the perception of reality. That is why Jesus made the statement “My Father and I are One.” after He let go of the “Old Self” in the dark night of the soul. In communion, we are to learn that Jesus and us are One. That is how we can do more than He did in his Name. (Note: Being like a child is having the purity of a child’s soul)

In Matthew 24, that is why the messiah will be seen as the lightning in the east is seen in the west! Are not your prayers heard where you are at and at the same time prayers are heard made by people on the exact opposite side of the earth. Rapture is merely “Raised up” in operational consciousness frequency. Oh, by the way, high frequency consciousness is like fire to low frequency consciousness. Consciousness is that “word”..... a word is merely a metaphor for a thought. the Tower of Babel concept is very accurate.

For some unknown reason, I have been given the ability to read people’s souls. People’s thoughts are real physical tangible objects. It’s how Jesus knew the thoughts of the people around him. What I have shared is the tip of the proverbial iceberg. We truly are entering interesting times. The only explanation I have as to why I can do what I do is that Peter was correct in quoting Joel in Acts 2!!


234 posted on 12/26/2011 9:43:44 PM PST by tired&retired
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