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21 Reasons to Reject Sola Scriptura
By Joel Peters ^

Posted on 12/26/2011 6:08:22 PM PST by rzman21

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To: rzman21

” We must know God not just know about God.”

Bingo!!!


161 posted on 12/26/2011 8:01:03 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You are critizing others for not going to other churches when you don’t yourself.

The scriptures were written down by men for men but created by God. God says they are perfect, who am I to argue?


162 posted on 12/26/2011 8:01:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: narses

The answer is Yes. Jesus, the Son of God, existed before he was given a physical body and born by Mary. Just as he exists after his earthly body died.

Jesus is the Savior, not Mary.


163 posted on 12/26/2011 8:03:21 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rzman21

Everyone’s certain, except me and my monkey!


164 posted on 12/26/2011 8:03:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: muawiyah

i’d love to see you point out the gross errors so we can discuss them.

you miss the point of the article. The Church was given authority to teach, we have the duty to listen.

can you name one instance in the NT when someone decided on their own by reading Scripture what the Scripture meant?


165 posted on 12/26/2011 8:05:11 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: rzman21
“Protestants need to be self-critical about their beliefs. And so do Catholics frankly.”

I agree.

Any Follower of “the way” should examine and discern by the Holy Spirit what comes from God and what comes from man.

Both Scripture and Tradition. This why the promised Spirit was sent.

God has provided.

Where is the perfect church?

Can you truly state that the Church has been perfect at any time.

At the time of the Reformation had the church not wandered off that path?

Is it perfect today?

Are the churches described it Revelation 2-3 perfect?
Scripture does not read that way.

Have the Scriptures and Holy Spirit been discounted as being unreliable in the Catholic Church? Or, is it's man's abuse or corruption of them that is the true problem throughout the history of the church? (universal).

Today the Protestant Churches are struggling in following Christ. So many have been infiltrated by untruth and false teaching even counter to the scriptures AND traditions.

I am Lutheran, you may have guessed it. It appears that it is our time for Gods correction But, I could not become a Catholic, because the Catholic Church seems to go so far as to discount the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit, which is what truly drives me in the following of Christ.

I can not see how the Catholic Church wins true converts and saves lives when it does this.

166 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:26 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Lady Lucky
Feeding folks became my calling after 9/11. I'll minister how I can.

I even went to elders and got a blessing from my dad to go do that... he thought I was crazy... but he gave his blessing... I was an engineer at the time..

But feeding people.... well, seems like that was Our Lord's first miracle.

Not a bad role model to emulate, as poorly as I can.

I'm also a sucker for wedding parties. You wouldn't believe how many I've cooked at, for free.

/johnny

167 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tired&retired

Or you could be a loving Christian. Why not focus your love on people who haven’t heard the Gospel.


168 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:33 PM PST by DManA ( ex)
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To: driftdiver
There ya go, answering yourself. Good job.


169 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:58 PM PST by narses
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To: tired&retired

Buddhist believe Buddha was created when a heavenly elephant impregnated his mother.

Buddhism and Christianity are not compatible.


170 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; one Lord one faith one baptism

Technically, while our Lord Christ Jesus is the Head of the Body, the Church, our Chief Cornerstone,...the Body is created not by the Son, but by the Father, and God the Holy Ghost is the person who baptizes the believer into the Body to glorify the Son.

Please note, even Jesus Christ, who had chosen Judas, was not the final arbiter of Judas as it was the Father who must first elect the believer and even the 2nd Advent is not determined except by the Father.

One God, but how He is revealed to us in three different persons makes the discernment of those roles important.

We are members of His Royal Family, to fulfill his third royal patent, prior to all enemies being made a footstool unto His feet. Once the Body is complete by the Plan of the Father, then by the Sovereign will of the Father, the Son returns to fetch the bride, so she may be prepared for the Wedding Feast.


171 posted on 12/26/2011 8:07:19 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: right way right
...But, I could not become a Catholic, because the Catholic Church seems to go so far as to discount the Scriptures,
Really? Where? Every day, many times a day, the Church reads aloud Holy Scripture.
172 posted on 12/26/2011 8:09:05 PM PST by narses
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To: rzman21
That already happened ~ Catholics critically examining "the church" decided they needed something else ~ hence the creation of "formal" Protestantism (there already having been less formal Protestantism for many years before).

Then, Protestants critically examined the results and that's why there are a lot of different kinds of Protestants.

Then you got your Pentecostals ~ they claim their level of conversions is sufficient that before the end of this century all Christians will likely be Pentecostals ~

173 posted on 12/26/2011 8:11:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: driftdiver; narses

what you posted is perfect from the Catholic Faith teaching:

God the Son has always existed, He was without beginning or end and in the fullness of time He became Man, so He is fully God and fully man.

Jesus is the only Savior of the world, He alone is the mediator between God and men, His Sacrificial death on the cross reconciles sinners to God. Mary is a created human being, who became the Mother of God.


174 posted on 12/26/2011 8:11:24 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Cvengr

“The Baptism is by God the Holy Spirit, not by man, not even Christ Himself, but by God the Holy Spirit who glorifies the Son.”

I agree, however Christ does have the ability to Baptize with the Spirit.” It’s the real meaning of Communion. It’s the reason Jesus said what he did in John when he came out of the Dark-Night-of-the-Soul. “My Father and I are One!”

Be careful with Paul’s letters. While he speaks often with the Holy Spirit within him, he openly states that some of what he says comes from himself and not the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 7: 25 is an example. Read “his words carefully.

I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26 Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is.....


175 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:19 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: driftdiver
I know an awful lot of Buddhists. None of them believe any such thing.

Just where do you get this stuff?

176 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; tired&retired

Since the RCC congregation and heirarchy purportedly so creates human spirits to place into the soulish humans they choose to baptize in order for them to have eternal life, they will also be held accountable for any person not so baptized by that heirarchy, who has faith in Christ in their heart.

IMHO, I’ve never met such an empowered human being, which is why I find the protocol God provides by His Holy Spirit directly, to be so much more glorifying to God the Son.

Thank You Lord for that same faith.


177 posted on 12/26/2011 8:15:09 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: muawiyah; driftdiver

When every man is his own Pope and Chief Theologian, anything is possible. BTW, every Buddhist I know recognizes that he was born a man, taught as a man and died as a man, never a God and never a product of some bestial pagan myth. But what do I know?


178 posted on 12/26/2011 8:15:26 PM PST by narses
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
"The Church was given authority to teach, we have the duty to listen"

Again, sounds like a cult to me. Just sayin'.

And YES, ..full disclosure, I am Lutheran Missouri Synod. (^ :

179 posted on 12/26/2011 8:15:27 PM PST by CainConservative (Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy Newt/Marco 2012!!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Jesus did exactly that several times.

What you are asking for is something that doesn't happen ~ that is, that a single individual coming up with his own variant reading or understanding suddenly becomes leader of a million member church.

No, a single individual doesn't do that. Christian theology is such that it takes a group to work its way through the materials.

180 posted on 12/26/2011 8:15:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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