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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

better hit those history books harder next time.

there was no “roman” church and no “greek” church, there was the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church comprised of romans and greeks.

the great schism did not occur until the 11th century, the canon was set in the 4th century.


325 posted on 12/25/2011 6:53:21 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
**there was no “roman” church and no “greek” church,***

Let me rephrase that. Latin speaking church and Greek speaking church.

The CHURCH was not homogeneous on what was the canon of Scripture.

According to THE FORMATION OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE CANON by Lee McDonald, the only accepted books without question were the four Gospels, Acts, Paul's letters (except Hebrews) 1 Peter, 1 John and were accepted without council decisions.

“It might be said that this collection of twenty NT writings was widely recognized from the ‘grass roots’ of the church, but that later the remaining seven were determined largely by the hierarchy of the church through council decisions. Only these last seven continued to be questioned in the churches after Eusebius......”

Athanasius accepted both Hebrews and Revelation, but Cyril of Jerusalem and Gregory of Nazianzus did not accept Revelation as did not several other Eastern Church leaders.

In my personal hand written notes I mention that “ 340 AD, Athanasius convinces Rome to accept Hebrews.” I did not place a page note as I should have.

The author also shows some of the other accepted books in
Ethiopia, the Eastern Churches and how even the Roman Church never achieved unity on what the canon was until Trent.

The only books of our modern NT that still are distrusted by some are Hebrews (A very well written and logical book, one of my favorites) James, 2 Peter, 2&3 John, Jude and Revelation. And even if we allowed the spurious books in, they would STILL prove the Mormons to be without foundation!

432 posted on 12/25/2011 9:42:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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