Posted on 12/13/2011 7:53:56 AM PST by Colofornian
So why can't we ask the obvious question: If Mormonism is "anti-Christian," then how can it be considered "Christian?"
There's five essential elements to this article:
1. The Mormon church claims to be a Christian church much like fundamentalist Mormons (fLDS) who claim to be "Mormon." Mainstream Mormons object to that inclusion -- much the same Christians object to counterfeit religions claiming authenticity -- at the expense of Christians, of course!
2. Where might boundaries be established and respected when it comes from moving from one religion to another? Where are Mormonism's misguided boundaries?
3. Does it sound very civil for Mormon prophets to label all those who dont confess Joseph Smith as of Antichrist as Brigham Young did...or Church of the Devil as BYU professors applying an obvious Book of Mormon text do with sanction of the Mormon church?
4. What other proof is offered that Mormonism is anti-Christian? Is Christian church 'of the devil?' per Mormonism?
5. FAQ: Still not convinced that the Mormon church has fronted itself as outright anti-Christian? Then please read this FAQ on: Who are the Christians and What is Christianity, per Mormonism? An 'Interview' Across the Generations with the mouthpieces of the Mormon god, the Lds 'prophets' and 'apostles':
Merry Christmas, and the very best wishes of this blessed season to my Mormon brothers & sisters in Christ.
P M
Every Mormon I’ve met has been a wonderful, uplifting person but they are no more “Christian” than is a Buddhist.
1) Mormonism has set up temples where secret ceremonies are carried out - baptism for the dead, weddings, sealing, and others.
2) Mormonism believes that their members can become gods and be given domain over other planets, this opens up the issue of more than one god and Jesus Christ.
All you have to do to make Mormonism (or any other cult) a Christian religion is to throw in a dead, deified Jewish rabbi into the pantheon of gods and everything is good!
Why, thanks Jack for throwing out that insightful cogent contribution to the conversation.
Christ is not dead, he is risen, and there is no “pantheon of gods”.
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OTOH. . .
*Save for Harry Reid, that is. Now there is a man to fear; but of course, it is NOT because of his religion; but rather because he is a Liberal/Leftie Democrat. We have real and immediate enemies at hand; why search and create more; and in the most arduous of manner?
(If you doubt, just check out web sites such as "Atlas Shrugs"/Pamela Geller; Jihad Watch/Robert Spence; or '\"Anti-Mullah". . .or even 'frontpagemagazine/David Horowitz. Good grief; we have barbarians at our collective world door. And we have a 'Left-wing' determinedly inviting this enemy inside. And that includes, of course; our Muslim -empathizing/sympathizing, enabler and current President.)
I’ll continue to strive to do anything possible to contribute to the conversation here on FR!
Question: Has Islam always only taken a physical force approach to handling the world?
No. Violence or threats haven't been behind all their conversions to Islam, even though entire people groups were indeed historically "swallowed up" as eventual Muslims due to such violence and force.
Why is that relevant based upon what you said? Because Muslims regard Christians as "infidels" -- and seek to persuade the "infidels" to be faithful by converting to Islam.
Mormons? Same thing? One of the top four Lds missionary messages going back to the 1950s has been to convince the Christian public that they are "apostates." [I'll cite you chapter & verse if you want it from a Mormon online publication from the Mormon church itself]
So Muslims and Mormons agree: We as Christians are supposedly "infidels" and "apostates" and they want us to leave Christianity.
So then you have the ignorant gall to state that Mormons don't want Christians to leave Christianity...when BOTH Mormons and Muslims want us exactly to do that! And Mormons send out 52,000 missionaries to ensure that precisely happens!
Your problem is that you seem to assume Mormonism = Christianity and has the same long-term impact (heaven & hell-wise)
why are we ignoring what is in fact, the greatest and most historical threat to Christianity i.e. Islam. Last I checked, Mormons have not made a spiritual calling of torching Christians in their churches; their homes and communities. . [Cricket]
Sorry. But ignoring the spiritual peril just because the physical peril exists is ludicrous.
Besides. I take my cue from Jesus:
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)
So does Jesus say, "fear the Muslim torchers or terrorists?" (No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes) So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk -- and that includes both Muslims and Mormons...yes, that's right...people can multi-task!
If by their missionary MO; they knock on my door; they are polite and they leave when they know I am not interested... [cricket]
So "leave them be" eh? Even though they refuse to "leave us be?" (Calling us "apostates" in the process?)
I could probably guess that the folks who the apostle Paul warned the church @ Ephesus about had the bulk in common with the sheep there. Both groups were "religious." So, did Paul ignore them? (No)
As Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:
"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)
You know. If you spoke about something night and day for three years, ya think that's a cultural priority of the apostle Paul? To defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves! Ya better believe it!
Reid is a liberal democrat BECAUSE of his religion, even he proudly says that.
No one here doesn’t believe Islam is a threat, but they are a physical threat, Mormonism is a greater spiritual threat because they specifically target Christians.
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matthew 10:28)
Some of us can multi-task.
Reid is a liberal democrat BECAUSE of his religion, even he proudly says that. [Reaganaut]
Exactly:
BYU invited Harry Reid in '07 to speak to all students & faculty...Now why would a supposedly "conservative" campus do that?
Once there, Reid told BYU students: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."
Source: Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU
Good thing some of the wimps of this generation weren't in charge of running the military during WWII. They wouldn't have known how to deal with multiple fronts (Europe, at home, North Africa, Pacific, etc.) let alone multiple enemies (Japan, Germany, Italy).
Since WHEN is MORMONism supposed to be LOGICAL?
"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]
Given this mormonic teaching that is the very essence of Antichrist, it is still amazing how much LDS inc apologists want folks to believe LDS inc is Christianity restored! MormonISM is the very essence of slick anti-Christ inveigling, and the promoters of this anti-Christian religion will continue to be exposed and opposed so long as Christians are not squelched by the political correctness approach inherent in the lie that exposing mormonISM is hate or hatred of the people trapped in this demonic cult.
How about avoiding the HERESY that is MORMONism and run off in another direction?
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