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To: MarkBsnr

I’m glad to see an effort to distance oneself from so much condemnation of the Apostle Paul. You’ll pardon me I’m sure for the impression that I’ve been dealing with a bunch of closet Ebionites, here.

I myself don’t agree with all the tenets of Calvinism, but refuse to join in with any myopic condemnations of John Calvin. His actions were no more and no less excessive than many other religious leaders of that era and before, whether Protestant or Catholic. His beliefs were sincerely arrived at and I do not question his faith nor the faith of those who sincerely follow the tenets of the denomination that arose in his wake.

Do I disagree with many scriptural interpretations within Calvinism? Yes, I do, and have made that fairly plain. However, disagreement is permissible upon some matters, even within your own church, MarkBsnr.


318 posted on 12/24/2011 9:11:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I’m glad to see an effort to distance oneself from so much condemnation of the Apostle Paul. You’ll pardon me I’m sure for the impression that I’ve been dealing with a bunch of closet Ebionites, here.

The Church considers Paul as the second greatest of the Apostles after Peter; for example my home church and school growing up was named Sts. Peter and Paul. The Church has no problem with Paul whatsoever; the Catechism references Paul throughout.

I myself don’t agree with all the tenets of Calvinism, but refuse to join in with any myopic condemnations of John Calvin. His actions were no more and no less excessive than many other religious leaders of that era and before, whether Protestant or Catholic. His beliefs were sincerely arrived at and I do not question his faith nor the faith of those who sincerely follow the tenets of the denomination that arose in his wake.

The pursuit and the maintenance of power trump everything else for many people, including Calvin. I do not doubt his sincerity; however sincerity does not ensure correctness, neither does it ensure truth.

Do I disagree with many scriptural interpretations within Calvinism? Yes, I do, and have made that fairly plain. However, disagreement is permissible upon some matters, even within your own church, MarkBsnr.

On some matters, sure. On basics of doctrine, no. I cannot disagree with the Trinitarian formula and remain in the Church, for instance.

319 posted on 12/24/2011 9:52:51 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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