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To: caww; boatbums
I know I'm late stepping into this, and I haven't even reviewed the discussion, but I caught the comment about 'works'. I am currently engaged in an exchange with someone on another forum regarding the topic 'once saved, always saved'. The other person is of this opinion. I am not. I look at salvation as the starting line. He looks at it as the finish line.

Have y'all seen any such thread here on FR?

(And for the record, works are the result of an active relationship with God through Christ. Eph 2:10) -Thanks.

195 posted on 12/14/2011 10:55:26 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat
'once saved, always saved'. The other person is of this opinion. I am not.

I do...the 'sanctity of the believer' comes to mind. An individuals salvation belongs to Christ....He knows who are His and vice versa....Either they are "sealed" in Him or not...there is no middle ground....those who are KNOW they are His....it's really that simple. Scripture was written that we may KNOW we are His....not second guess His words.

Certainly "works" follow, they cannot help to be so as the individual is a "changed" man. But works are not a 'requirement' which affects ones salvation.... as the thief on the cross had no time or opportunity but to acknowlege Christ's sinlessness and admit his own sin...Jesus took Him with Him that very day.

But in the catholic faith it is my understanding it's a sin to acknowedge you KNOW your salvation is assured. ..and that flys in the face of what otherwise is clearly stated.

196 posted on 12/14/2011 11:17:53 AM PST by caww
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To: Hoodat

Please see these posts with their related Scripture.

It’s a lot to repost here but contains several Scripture that address the security of the believer.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2819100/posts?page=134#134
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2819100/posts?page=25#25


202 posted on 12/14/2011 12:31:05 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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