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To: RnMomof7
Catholic sacraments are all works of men

Did you catch number 12 in the footnotes of this article:

12 When discussing this passage with a Protestant, most especially a Protestant male, one must keep in mind that one is talking to a person who went through the travails of adolescence without the help of the Sacraments. To such a person, it seems the most obvious thing in the world (too obvious, indeed, to be mentioned that what St. Paul is talking about is erection, sexual lust, and other aspects of arousal. This idea is abetted by the King James Version, which uses 'lust' and 'concupiscence' throughout this passage, where I have used 'covetousness'—words which had a broader meaning in the 17th Century, of course, than they have today. The fact of the matter is that Paul is not speaking exclusively nor even primarily of sexual matter. By the "law in our members" he means the whole phenomenon of over-inclination towards visible, tangible, worldly goods and values—an overinclination to which man's bodily nature () makes him naturally liable, and to which Adam's fall has made man not only liable but actually subject (). Thus man's sinfulness, for Paul is a broad-based as man's very secularity. In light, it is intelligible why even the very first and most basic commandment of the Law, the commandment to have God alone as one's ultimate concern, should prove to be so difficult, cross-grained, and frustrating to us.

Catholic children, thanks to the early and regular practice of Confession, tend to grow up with a better grasp of this broad character of "sin." But in Protestant countries, few factors have been more ruinous to Christianity than the tendency to almost identify sin with sex and thereby to shift the center of "sin" away from deliberate acts and towards the uncontrollable motions of the "id" or the genitals.

Tell me, rnmomof7, as a Mom and a former Catholic, did you see a lot of evidence of the sacraments helping young Catholics - especially boys - from the "travails of adolescence without the help of the Sacraments"? Or "Catholic children, thanks to the early and regular practice of Confession, tend to grow up with a better grasp of this broad character of 'sin.'"? I left the Catholic religion in my late teens, but I sure don't recall all that much difference nor that Catholics had it over Protestants in the understanding of the source of sin in their lives. How about you?

173 posted on 12/13/2011 8:13:33 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
Tell me, rnmomof7, as a Mom and a former Catholic, did you see a lot of evidence of the sacraments helping young Catholics - especially boys - from the "travails of adolescence without the help of the Sacraments"? Or "Catholic children, thanks to the early and regular practice of Confession, tend to grow up with a better grasp of this broad character of 'sin.'"? I left the Catholic religion in my late teens, but I sure don't recall all that much difference nor that Catholics had it over Protestants in the understanding of the source of sin in their lives. How about you?

LOL that is hysterical .... The Girls private HS near my former home was known as the maternity ward of Buffalo ...Seeing that Catholics rank right up there as patients of abortion clinics seem to indicate otherwise..

184 posted on 12/14/2011 7:57:13 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: boatbums

Just thought..we could find out if there is any substance by asking the Catholic men here how many were virgins when they married ...


185 posted on 12/14/2011 8:00:37 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: boatbums; RnMomof7
Tell me, rnmomof7, as a Mom and a former Catholic, did you see a lot of evidence of the sacraments helping young Catholics - especially boys - from the "travails of adolescence without the help of the Sacraments"?

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!

Or "Catholic children, thanks to the early and regular practice of Confession, tend to grow up with a better grasp of this broad character of 'sin.'"? I left the Catholic religion in my late teens, but I sure don't recall all that much difference nor that Catholics had it over Protestants in the understanding of the source of sin in their lives. How about you?

Not me either.

186 posted on 12/14/2011 8:33:06 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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