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To: elcid1970

If I wanted to - which I don’t - but if I really wanted to hurt some group of people - I could dig up ancient history about every single religious sect ever known to man or beast - and go out of my way to make a mockery of the whole thing.

But I do not want to hurt anyone.


22 posted on 11/28/2011 5:55:57 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Saundra Duffy wrote:
“If I wanted to ... I could dig up ancient history about every single religious sect ever known to man or beast.”

Go ahead, dig. To be sure every religious group has a few warts, because it is composed of people, all of whom are descendants of fallen man.

But I think you are missing the point. We are talking about doctrine/teaching, official doctrine/teaching. So, go ahead, dig. You will find nothing that even begins to compare to the outright silliness of LDS doctrine/teaching.


36 posted on 11/28/2011 6:40:21 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I mock you Mormon Morgbots with the teached doctrines of your own religion and its single-author holy book of Mormon which like the Koran of Islam was written by one man.

Frankly I didn’t give a d@mn about Mormonism even after the mishies came to convert me while I was in Army flight school in 1970 and told me that the “garmies” would protect me in a post-crash fire (I flew helicopters in Vietnam) and tried to confiscate my tobacco jar and pipes and said alcohol was of the devil. That didn’t bother me.

It was only recently when I learned that your fellow Morgbot mishies call the Catholic Church the “church of the devil” and call us a bunch of drunks and trashed Catholic cathedrals in Spain that I decided to take a second look and yes you are not Trinitarian Christians and your Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer and we “gentiles” find that view despicable and your control-freak society imposing micromanagement rule over every detail of Mormons’ lives makes the Salafi Muslims look like a bunch of Woodstock hippies and your Mormon Inc. billion dollar shopping malls can suck your believers dry & destitute for all I care you are not even a worthy adversary of Holy Mother the Catholic Church she has faced far worse in the two thousand plus years than your storytelling charlatan founder.

Merry Smithmas!


49 posted on 11/28/2011 7:51:35 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Saundra Duffy
But I do not want to hurt anyone.


92 posted on 11/29/2011 7:41:02 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (If other churches were dead dunking mormons to save them mormons would be furious.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
But I do not want to hurt anyone.

Then why do you have a the constant refrain that people opposed to mormonISM are condemning you to hell or that even though direct quotes from lds sources about your group are called lies...hurt people - it's mormonISM that hurts people.

114 posted on 11/29/2011 10:30:55 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; elcid1970
If I wanted to - which I don’t - but if I really wanted to hurt some group of people - I could dig up ancient history about every single religious sect ever known to man or beast - and go out of my way to make a mockery of the whole thing. But I do not want to hurt anyone.

Saundra, why bother? You already pay 10% of your income to have it all done for you! And missionary families also chip in extra so that you don't have to!

It's all delegated on your behalf!

Mormon leaders are in such a quanderous head-spin!
On the one hand, their "scriptures" say THEY are the...
"only true living church on the face of the earth" (D&C 1:30)
& that the rest of the churches are under Satan's umbrella (1 Nephi 14:9-10)
& that those churches should not be joined 'cause they are "ALL wrong" (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History, vv. 18-19)
& they are "ALL wrong" cause 100% of their creeds are an "abomination" to their God (ibid)
& that their professors are "ALL corrupt" heart-drifters who lack power...(ibid)
...but then on the other hand, "Christian" is sure a nice brand image to covet these days, so some want to "play nice" & just call the rest of us...
..."other" Christians.

Over & over again, for 180 years.
Daily accusations that Christians are "apostates."
Daily accusations that ALL our professing believers are "corrupt" -- and that we're heart drifters.
Daily accusations that ALL our creeds are an "abomination" to God.

When, oh, when, Saundra will the Mormon church relent over this unprecedented slander of the worldwide Christian church?

52,000 missionaries accusing us of "apostasy"
E-accusations of this at lds.org
Curricula–based slander
Magazine-based slander
Book-based slander, published by Deseret, Inc., owned by the church

Joseph Smith's original vision, captured in the same Pearl of Great Price I've referenced a “few” times through the years, in vv. 18-21, references Christian sects...
...published and republished in DOZENS if not HUNDREDS of distinct languages...
...as not worth joining...
...as being untrue (Smith said this specifically about Presbyterianism)...
...as having 100% of our creeds as an "abomination" to the Mormon god..."abomination" means putrid...
...as having 100% of our professing believers as Christians described as "corrupt"...
...as being heart-drifters.

Imagine the mission field. Perhaps a Christian missionary and his family have worked 50 years there. Then a person they've been trying to reach for 50 years picks up the Mormon "scripture" -- the Pearl of Great Price. And they read most of the above about the Mormon worldview of who Christians are.

Will that engender "good will" in the heart of people to view Christian missionaries and Christian neighbors favorably? Really?

Is this your "good will," Saundra? Full of Christmas cheer as you make out your December tithing check to make sure all of this slander continues?

What more Mormon machinery do you need Saundra to export such slanderous machinations???

Just goes to show you what 10% of your income can accomplish!

138 posted on 11/29/2011 2:54:50 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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To: Saundra Duffy; elcid1970; All
If I wanted to - which I don’t - but if I really wanted to hurt some group of people - I could dig up ancient history about every single religious sect ever known to man or beast - and go out of my way to make a mockery of the whole thing. But I do not want to hurt anyone.

Sandy...and ALL: A 'word picture' if you will.

Let's say you're 19.
Let's say your fiance was a member of another church in another town.
And say, once a month she would arrive at your home and you'd both proceed to head off to a pre-marital counseling program started by your local bishop.

And let's say that every time your fiance would talk to your family members, she would accumulatively find out what this bishop really thought of her...in fact, she pieced together various comments that your bishop thought she was...
...a "blasphemer..."
...an "apostate..."
..."corrupt..."
..."of Anti-Christ..."
...and her most cherished beliefs were an "abomination"...
...Oh sure, these "comments" weren't usually directed to her one-on-one in her face...
...but accumulatively, from talking with your family members, they would document that these were the exact terms he used...
...and these were just the most common...there were other terms, a few worse...
...and then when she directly confronted the bishop if these things were true, he didn't deny any of them.

Now do you honestly think for a moment, that a Mormon bridegroom's argument to his "bride"...
...when he persistently failed to defend her before the bishop or before his family members...
...an argument that for every one of these critiques the bishop said of her...
...he happened to say 1,000 things positive about other subjects that nothing that have to do with her...
...is going to give him "brownie points" in her eyes?

Wouldn't that actually make things worse? I mean, if you, Saundra, were right in this instance -- that your bishop doesn't spend the rest of his time "hurting" others -- well, doesn't that mean this Mormon's bride-to-be has been singled out for the harshest treatment that your bishop would dish out upon others?

The "bride to be" in this account is the "Bride of Christ," His church.
The accusations of your leaders are hurled at the bride of Christ.
And you -- and other Mormons -- defend the bishop in this account, and NOT the honor of the Bride.
Tell us, Saundra, what kind of a bridegroom does that make Mormons? (Especially in her eyes?)

Saundra, when oh when are you going to tell your collective representative "bishop" of your church to stop slandering the Bride of Christ?
When are you going to stop paying your general authorities to stop slandering the Bride of Christ?

139 posted on 11/29/2011 3:04:35 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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