“closer to the reformers than to rome”
LOL!
ok, let’s put this to the test.
show me one ECF that attacked the doctrine of the Real Presence. the Didache, Ignatius and Justin Martyr all taught this prior to 150ad. show me one ECF who condemned this doctrine and taught that the Eucharist only “represented” the Body of Christ.
or
show me one ECF that attacked the doctrine of baptismal regeneration. just one that taught bpatism was symbolic and that one is regnerated by saying a “sinners prayer”
let’s see what you got.
Martin Luther viscerally attacked Ulrich Zwingli for his invention of the notion that Holy Communion was purely symbolic.
http://philofreligion.homestead.com/files/mpaper8.htm
Ok then you show me where it is taught in the NT church in scripture ok??
The Didache refers to the Lord’s Supper as spiritual food and drink. There is no indication that the elements are transformed in anyway....their ceremony ..no 'consecration of the bread and wine here .....
"Celebrate the Eucharist as follows: Say over the cup: “we give you thanks, Father, for the holy vine of David, your servant, which you made known to us through Jesus your servant. To you be glory for ever”.
Over the broken bread say: “we give you thanks, Father, for the life and the knowledge which you have revealed to us through Jesus your servant. To you be glory for ever. As this broken bread scattered on the mountains was gathered and became one, so too, may your Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into your kingdom. For glory and power are yours through Jesus Christ for ever”.
Pope Gelasius seemed to think that the bread and wine in substance at consecration remained bread and wine a view shared by Jerome, Eustathius of Antioch. Serapion, Eusebius, Theodoret, J Athanasius, Ambrosiaster, Macanus of Egypt, ( Early Christian Doctrines J.N.D. Kelly)
Well that settles it...I'm going to dump God's bible and go with the Catholic early church fathers...Even if I know some of their church father testimonies were forgeries...
I'm gonna celebrate...Gimme another beer, I'm headed for the bingo party...