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To: RnMomof7
"So does that mean it is not true??

Absolutely. I'll match your banned website snippets and false factoids with the writings of the Church Fathers any day. As I already pointed out to you in post #748 the initial construct of the modern Catholic Liturgy was documented in the early 1st century in the Didache and more extensively documented in the writings of St. Clement of Rome in the late 1st century. St. Justin Martyr tells us that the basic structure of the Mass was already in place by the year 150.

The term "Mass" is a relatively new term derived from Missa, a code word used by early Christians first recorded by St. Ambrose in the Latin "missam facere coepi".

818 posted on 11/28/2011 10:43:27 AM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
As it was and has always been for His Church:
"And this food is called among us Εὐχαριστία [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh."

--St. Justin Martyr, 100AD-165AD, First Apology in defense of the Christians


823 posted on 11/28/2011 11:19:26 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law
Absolutely. I'll match your banned website snippets and false factoids with the writings of the Church Fathers any day. As I already pointed out to you in post #748 the initial construct of the modern Catholic Liturgy was documented in the early 1st century in the Didache and more extensively documented in the writings of St. Clement of Rome in the late 1st century. St. Justin Martyr tells us that the basic structure of the Mass was already in place by the year 150.

Saint Justin Martyr (died c. 165), in chapter 67 of his First Apology [2]:

On the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons.

NO script..no canned responses, no priest, no altar... This sounds more like my church than yours

862 posted on 11/28/2011 1:24:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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