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To: CynicalBear; MarkBsnr
Every one backed up with scripture.

to proof text their individual theories, some similar some not, not even fit to be termed theology.

As your posts reflect only your views which differ from others who use the same or other scripture to "back up" theirs.

It's still just you. Your theory based on your own authority. That's all it is. You've taken a book and made your own religion consisting of you and what you wish to take from it and say it means.

3,965 posted on 12/12/2011 7:22:59 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; MarkBsnr; metmom; boatbums; caww
Well, let’s look at how well you agree with the RCC as a comparison.

Here’s what the CC says about you not believing every word of the apocrypha since they say it’s part of the canon of the RCC.

If anyone does not accept as sacred and canonical the aforesaid books in their entirety and with all their parts, as they have been accustomed to be read in the Catholic Church and as they are contained in the Old Latin Vulgate Edition, and knowingly and deliberately rejects the aforesaid traditions, let him be anathema. [H. J. Schroeder, Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Original Text with English Translation (St Louis and London: B. Herder, 1941), P 18.] If we should take the apocrypha as scripture could you please answer the following questions?

According to the two Books of Maccabees, which one of the three places did Antiochus Epiphanes actually die in? Did he actually die three different times in three different places?

Do you believe the following from Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)?

Ecclesiasticus 25:19 Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity.
Ecclesiasticus 22:3 It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined, and the birth of a daughter is a loss.

Do you believe the birth of a daughter is a loss to her parents or do you believe what it says in Psalms?

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

Do you believe there is no hope for children born out of wedlock?

Wisdom 3:16-19 But children of adulterers will not come to maturity, and the offspring of an unlawful union will perish. Even if they live long they will be held of no account, and finally their old age will be without honor. If they die young, they will have no hope and no consolation on the day of judgment. For the end of an unrighteous generation is grievous.

Or do you believe the following?

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Wisdom 6:17 says, "The beginning of wisdom is the most sincere desire for instruction." but in Proverbs 9 it says this.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Which is it?

Wisdom 6:24 says, "The multitude of the wise is the salvation of the world," but in Timothy 4:10 it says “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Again, which is it? Are you an anathema to the RCC or do you agree with all that is written in the apocrypha?

3,968 posted on 12/12/2011 7:49:29 PM PST by CynicalBear
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