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To: CynicalBear
>> I would challenge you to examine your fellow travellers' posts and see if it is not at the very least strongly indicated.<<

Have never seen where they put themselves first. Every one puts Christ first.

YOPIOS and declaring one's own salvation kinda puts the lie to that doesn't it?

I see Catholics posting everything from supposed “church fathers” to current popes. When Catholics can’t back up their beliefs with scripture they tend to get personal. I see protestants consistently backing up their beliefs with scripture.

Catholics post the Gospels and Church Fathers in a way to be true to the teachings as Jesus, Paul, Peter and John instructed us. Protestants threw open the door to self-revelation and self-theology at the Reformation. How is that working out? Have you guys achieved unity of belief, as Jesus only taught one Gospel?

3,957 posted on 12/12/2011 6:03:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
>> YOPIOS and declaring one's own salvation kinda puts the lie to that doesn't it?<<

Nope, they don’t declare their own salvation. It’s promised in scripture.

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life." (John 5:24)

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The means by which we are saved is an unwavering faith in Jesus.

John 6:38-40 Jesus said, “I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day”

Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one."

3,960 posted on 12/12/2011 6:22:40 PM PST by CynicalBear
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